tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post454614544281066556..comments2024-01-04T07:05:27.381-06:00Comments on Immigration Talk with a Mexican American: What Happens When One of the Pretty People Get Caught Up in the Immigration Raid-Detention Center Debacle?Deehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-41014393191429714322008-06-25T18:52:00.000-05:002008-06-25T18:52:00.000-05:00anon 1, that is utter BS! I have read many pro bl...anon 1, that is utter BS! I have read many pro blogs and forums and the pro's in them are ten times more hateful than any anti could even dream of being. I would be glad to steer you in their direction for proof but you already know what I am saying is true. <BR/><BR/>In the Hispanic Forum it is the pro's who gang up on the anti's, including the moderators who shouldn't be biased, posting or taking sides anyway. Face the truth anon 1. <BR/><BR/>What have the pro's to fear by coming in to this blog and posting? They have dee to stick up for them. What are they afraid of? I'll tell you why they won't do it and it is because they know they are on the wrong side of our laws and they are unable to debate civilly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-45459176875548046792008-06-25T18:00:00.000-05:002008-06-25T18:00:00.000-05:00Thank you Anon 1.I know the truth hurts those that...Thank you Anon 1.<BR/>I know the truth hurts those that dont stick with the truth!!<BR/><BR/>Truth is truth.<BR/>Facts are facts.<BR/><BR/>Anon1 is Anon1.<BR/><BR/>And I always post as Dee.<BR/><BR/>I ask Anonymous to pick a name for himself and then Liquid can tell us about his IP address once and for all. Then no need to discuss any further.<BR/><BR/>Fair?Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-61176581229642263442008-06-25T14:46:00.000-05:002008-06-25T14:46:00.000-05:002 different locations-2 different cities. Posts n...2 different locations-2 different cities. Posts nearly back2back from 2 different cities? Come on, I know you ANTI's stretch the truth but look at the facts 1st please. You got to admit to, those earlier posts by pat to anonymous and then Dee's comment right after that was pretty funnyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-60424788114559320022008-06-25T14:25:00.000-05:002008-06-25T14:25:00.000-05:002 different computers-2 different IP addresses2 different computers-2 different IP addressesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-14482017962272034262008-06-25T14:18:00.000-05:002008-06-25T14:18:00.000-05:00where's liquid, he's got a program that will prove...where's liquid, he's got a program that will prove it. He's got spy gear to check the IP addresses from every post with the details of their source(location). He's already proved to everyone that I AM NOT DEE!!! It's only ever you ANTI's that even come up with the idea that Dee has no support so she must post under anon 1 when in fact she's got TON'S of PRO support that rather not debate the issue on this blog. ANTI's tend to gang up on and backstab to win their arguements and PRO's tend to be the calmer nicer folk so there's less that post. But Dee (as she's states many times) has NO NEED to comment under anonymous. Only someone, VINDICTIVE, SELF-SERVING, IDIOTIC, JERK-LIKE would even do such a thingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-18430640556013145452008-06-25T13:33:00.000-05:002008-06-25T13:33:00.000-05:00Well Anon, eblogger makes it very easy for you to ...Well Anon, eblogger makes it very easy for you to a blogname (made up or real) for yourself so we can distinguish you from anyone else. How about it? John, Mary, Anon3, etc.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-22812640681163426432008-06-25T09:43:00.000-05:002008-06-25T09:43:00.000-05:00I am not pat as much as you are not "anon 1"I am not pat as much as you are not "anon 1"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-55994107210022545442008-06-25T09:26:00.000-05:002008-06-25T09:26:00.000-05:00Pat,For you!Pat,<BR/>For <A HREF="http://school.discoveryeducation.com/clipart/images/a-trophy.gif" REL="nofollow">you</A>!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-12024323496219774692008-06-25T09:24:00.000-05:002008-06-25T09:24:00.000-05:00see dee, we antis are against all illegal aliens a...see dee, we antis are against all illegal aliens and all visa overstayers, not just hispanic ones but ALL of them. Does that make you feel less like antis are prejudice against hispanics?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-67700184046193595252008-06-24T22:00:00.000-05:002008-06-24T22:00:00.000-05:00Oh, I finally got it with that last remark. I sh...Oh, I finally got it with that last remark. I should have known!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-37638732687593056432008-06-24T21:35:00.000-05:002008-06-24T21:35:00.000-05:00Not what I said Liquid.However, you do make a poin...Not what I said Liquid.<BR/>However, you do make a point. No attention is given to the Latinos in custody while this Northern European illeegal is getting plenty of attention.<BR/><BR/>Go figure!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-42670399584205441282008-06-24T17:42:00.000-05:002008-06-24T17:42:00.000-05:00Dee said... As I said previously, the point in ...Dee said...<BR/><BR/> As I said previously, the point in a "pretty picture" being used as a caption was to indicate -- as I said -- "Of course the treatment should be the same for all people."<BR/><BR/><BR/>It could also be used to say that, because of the immigration situation here, Brown, south of th border, Hispanic, Latin@, etc... is 'ugly', while White, European is considered 'pretty'. Nothing like playing on racism, too, I guess, right Dee?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-46941553664594618402008-06-24T16:48:00.000-05:002008-06-24T16:48:00.000-05:00Gee and here I thought only the Hispanic were subj...Gee and here I thought only the Hispanic were subject to raids and detention. This isolated case may not prove the point but it does indicate that at least some ICE agents are even handed in their application of the law much to the chagrin of the bleeding heart liberals that are willing to sell out our country on the cheap to all comers.ultimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13624967903736347171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-74699956846603456012008-06-24T15:03:00.000-05:002008-06-24T15:03:00.000-05:00I am not making excuses for anything. If detentio...I am not making excuses for anything. If detention centers and jails need improvement, then so be it but what are you yelling at me and others for about it? We have never said we want these facilities to be abusive. You always rant and rant like it is our fault or that we have the power to do something about it. Those who claim they are seeing these things first hand need to let the authorities know about it so they can be corrected. Stop yelling at us about something we have no knowledge of other than "claims" and can do nothing about anyway! Why don't you go find yourself a punching bag rather than using us as one!<BR/><BR/>I still don't get what you mean by one of the "pretty" people. Who is that? Are you saying that prior to this young man's incerceration that only ugly people were being detained? Your rants and attacking those in our blog over it is getting ridiculous. We can't help you! Go to the authorities then!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-65680624880059015572008-06-24T14:51:00.000-05:002008-06-24T14:51:00.000-05:00If someone wanted to make the point that all detai...If someone wanted to make the point that all detainees should be treated the same and I certainly agree with that, why are looks "pretty" brought into the picture? Is one trying to claim that the better looking ones are treated better? If so, I would sure like proof of that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-80440077692527996622008-06-24T13:48:00.000-05:002008-06-24T13:48:00.000-05:00We would also save multi millions on the money we ...We would also save multi millions on the money we pay to private, crony contractors like Blackwater. They are busy building "training centers" all over the country in hopes of serving as contractors providing border security.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-79486534181617719982008-06-24T13:46:00.000-05:002008-06-24T13:46:00.000-05:00I agree we should get rid of the Detention Centers...I agree we should get rid of the Detention Centers. They are crony owned private prisons that, in many cases, provide deplorable conditions to the "detainees."<BR/><BR/>The 2nd issue is Comprehensive Immigration Reform. I believe we need to change our current Immigration laws so we bring the 12M out of the shadows and bring those that are felony free into some Guest Worker (legal) status and then be provided the opportunity to get in line and apply for citizenship if they are interested and if they qualify. <BR/><BR/>We spend billions of dollars for these deplorable crony owned private prisons -- Billions!! This pay back to GOP pals has to stop!! They hurt us taxpaying citizens and they hurt those that are "detained" under those deplorable conditions.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-49074621199216186322008-06-24T13:28:00.000-05:002008-06-24T13:28:00.000-05:00You are right dee, pretty should not have any adva...You are right dee, pretty should not have any advantage over ugly.<BR/>Visa overstayers(European, Mexican<BR/>or from any country should not have<BR/>any advantage over each other. Let's get rid of the detention centers and have instant deportation for one and all. But we have to include the millions who crossed the US/Mexican border<BR/>illegally-those must be included.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-36606927177864762792008-06-24T11:23:00.000-05:002008-06-24T11:23:00.000-05:00So much for your mis information about the heinous...So much for your mis information about the heinous detention centers getting better Pat.<BR/><BR/>What you see in this bog is a pretty picture of someone receiving this same, deplorable treatment.<BR/><BR/>Yes, they should ALL be treated the same. However, no one should suffer the deplorable and heinous treatment as is currently the state of these crony, privately owned Detention Centers.<BR/><BR/>The sad thing is, articles like this draw attention because the "pretty people" are now being caught up in it. <BR/><BR/>Thousands have demonstrated in Texas against these prisons but articles are NOT written! Now one of the "pretty people" is incarcerated in the same manner, now the attention.<BR/><BR/>Now do you understand Pat? <BR/>(somehow I think you will still find an excuse!)Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-12588129943861264692008-06-24T11:20:00.000-05:002008-06-24T11:20:00.000-05:00Nashville Scene6-19-08 ArticleFederal authorities ...Nashville Scene<BR/>6-19-08 Article<BR/><BR/>Federal authorities have castigated the publicly traded corporation for operating an immigration detention facility in Texas on the cheap. And at that CCA complex—which at one point forced children of immigrant detainees to dress in prison garb—dozens of incarcerated women and children have come forward with gut-wrenching tales of anguish and neglect.<BR/><BR/>http://www.nashvillescene.com/Stories/Cover_Story/2008/06/19/Locked_and_Loaded/Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-75044499750146886612008-06-24T11:16:00.000-05:002008-06-24T11:16:00.000-05:00More on Private Prison scandals:GEO Group Scandals...More on Private Prison scandals:<BR/><BR/>GEO Group Scandals: Several scandals surfaced during the last year that clarify why it is bad public policy to outsource incarceration to private prison companies. The Boca Raton-based GEO Group, in particular, had a number of scandals that caused the company to lose two contracts in Texas, and lead to a state-wide re-evaluation of prison privatization. Here is a run-down of some our previous coverage of GEO's problems in Texas: <BR/><BR/>Scot Noble Payne, a Idaho Prisoner, held in GEO's Dickens County jail, committed suicide. Mr. Payne's family filed a lawsuit against GEO alleging deplorable conditions and negligence. Idaho was forced to move its prisoners from GEO’s Dickens County lock-up after Mr. Payne's suicide revealed “squalid” conditions at the jail. Idaho prisoners formerly at Dickens have also being sent to GEO’s Bill Clayton Unit, which itself has seen escapes and disturbances by out-of-state prisoners upset at conditions. <BR/>The Coke County Juvenile Justice Center, a Texas Youth Commission (TYC), lockup was closed following reports of horrid conditions and sexual abuse. In fact, seven youth incarcerated at Coke County later sued the company alleging sexual abuse facilitated by a guard who was a registered sex offender. <BR/>GEO Group announced that it signed a contract with the Office of the Federal Detention Trustee for the development and operation of a 1,500-bed Detention Facility to house U.S. Marshals Service (USMS) prisoners in a "Laredo superjail." To build the 1,500 bed prison in the City of Laredo and Webb County, GEO president George Zoley traveled to Texas wielding $250,000 checks for both the City of Laredo and Webb County and did not leave empty handed, coming home with building permits and water hook-ups. Later, after public outcry, the city and county rejected the "donation," but the proposed jail continues to draw considerable controversy. <BR/>A GEO guard was arrested on felony charges earlier this year for for sneaking a bottle of MD 20/20 wine with two love letters taped to it under the fence of the Val Verde County Jail. Another guard was charged with federal civil rights violations for striking an inmate in the face in 2006 at the troubled facility, which was named "worst Texas jail" for the fall of 2007 by the Texas Jail Project. <BR/>Staffing problems continue to plague Pearsall. Limited staff increases safety risks and exposes guards and prisoners to abuse. Former prisoner, Miroslava Rodriguez-Grava, filed suit against GEO for mistreatment. Ms. Rodriguez-Grava is a legal permanent resident of Mexican descent who was held in GEO's Pearsall lockup, the South Texas Detention Center. <BR/>GEO hired former Texas Department of Criminal Justice head Gary Johnson to head its operations in Texas, Oklahoma, and Louisiana. A Daily Texan editorial reported that Ray Allen, former House Corrections Chairman, made $395,000 to $835,000 from lobbying contracts, including one with GEO Group, Inc.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-32128038226314081132008-06-24T11:13:00.000-05:002008-06-24T11:13:00.000-05:00What the MSM doesnt report:Texas Prison Bid´ness.L...What the MSM doesnt report:<BR/><BR/>Texas Prison Bid´ness.<BR/>Local Private Prison and Detention Center Opposition Grows in Texas: In addition to opposition to GEO Group's proposed Laredo superjail and CCA's T. Don Hutto family detention center, several other communities in Texas took strong stands against private prison proposals. Among the local prison fights we covered: <BR/><BR/>Burnet County residents came out in mass to oppose a proposed private jail and detention center in Burnet, Texas, just northwest of Austin. Over 500 people, the vast majority opposed to the prison, turned out for a public meeting on the proposed prison scheme, which involved public financing for the Louisiana-based prison company Southwestern Correctional. <BR/>In Fannin County, Leonard residents organized opposition to a faith-based prison proposed by Correctional Concepts, Inc. Even though eight other communities have rejected CCI's proposals and constitutional issues make it questionable that the prison would gain government contracts, CCI pushed forward with its proposal with a representative of the county claiming Satan is "doing everything he can to defeat this project." <BR/>In December, Emerald Corrections, another Louisiana prison company, proposed a 1,000 bed detention center in rural Caldwell County. Residents of the area have organized against the proposal; we'll have an update on this jail fight soon. <BR/>Protests also occurred at existing private detention centers in Texas, including CCA's Houston Processing Center, where protesters chained themselves to the prison gates, GEO Group's Val Verde Correctional Center, named Texas' worst fall 2007 jail by the Texas Jail Project, and MTC's Raymondville "tent city" detention center where religious opponents organized prayers and protests on behalf of the immigrant detainees held there.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-63431248588459544022008-06-24T11:09:00.000-05:002008-06-24T11:09:00.000-05:00Pat,There is no problem with the Texas Civil Right...Pat,<BR/>There is no problem with the Texas Civil Rights Review link. It must be your browser.<BR/>What Anon 1 was referencing is the title to the actual page: “Shackled, Detained, Deprived, Depressed: European Visitor meets ICE”<BR/>Try the actual link or googling this title. http://texascivilrightsreview.org/phpnuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1260<BR/>Otherwise, it has to be your own browser issues.<BR/>(or are you looking for excuses? or trying to blame the page.. always looking for some excuse rather than the facts!)Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-57056165702939317682008-06-24T11:05:00.000-05:002008-06-24T11:05:00.000-05:00As I said previously, the point in a "pretty pictu...As I said previously, the point in a "pretty picture" being used as a caption was to indicate -- as I said -- "Of course the treatment should be the same for all people."<BR/><BR/>We all should be aware these private prisons are owned by GOP donors and the conditions are deplorable.<BR/><BR/>The good news about this is receiving plenty of media attention. The more people know about the crony owners and understand how deplorable the conditions are in the Detention Centers, the more opportunity there will be for change. <BR/><BR/>I feel change coming around the corner!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-1260629107792037662008-06-24T11:04:00.000-05:002008-06-24T11:04:00.000-05:00Gee Pat, it looks like you are writing to yourself...Gee Pat, it looks like you are writing to yourself again. LOL.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.com