tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post570983749997686678..comments2024-01-04T07:05:27.381-06:00Comments on Immigration Talk with a Mexican American: ANTIs throwing Hissy Fit over Feinstein´s Needed Farm Worker BillDeehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-72990794449834421002008-05-27T20:43:00.000-05:002008-05-27T20:43:00.000-05:00dee, I have no reason to doubt the article I provi...dee, I have no reason to doubt the article I provided. Do you? Or is your bias going to get in the way again?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-76653653073005170042008-05-27T20:42:00.000-05:002008-05-27T20:42:00.000-05:00dee, and as I have said and as usual you aren't li...dee, and as I have said and as usual you aren't listening, if my mother committed a crime and the law said she had to go to a detention center for it, then that is what needs to happen! Unlike you ethnocentric Hispanics, I don't put my relatives or illegal foreigners who are ethnically like myself above the laws of this country! <BR/><BR/>No, I didn't say anything about the improvents made to these detention centers, THE ARTICLE I PROVIDED DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-44330230956932025942008-05-27T20:16:00.000-05:002008-05-27T20:16:00.000-05:00Pat,As I have said frequently, let your mother go ...Pat,<BR/>As I have said frequently, let your mother go to a detention center. Lets see how she likes it there. If it is as wonderful as you say it is, this should be no problem.<BR/>If it is as heinous as I say it is, then there is a problem.<BR/><BR/>Let her go. You are the one saying the improvements are so great! When shall we reserve her time there??Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-14912294178086017292008-05-23T17:13:00.000-05:002008-05-23T17:13:00.000-05:00anon 1, the fence has already been approved and wi...anon 1, the fence has already been approved and will be built. And I believe that something will be done about the illegals. I am hoping for the Save Act to pass and therefore the illegals will self deport without jobs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-28035720889376015942008-05-23T14:13:00.000-05:002008-05-23T14:13:00.000-05:00well pat, that was a well thought-out explanation ...well pat, that was a well thought-out explanation which I liked and actually am quite surprised to see you re-act in a civil way, thank you, what I was doing is simply re-acting at the same level as the anonymous' harsh and racist comments, do I like doing it that way, no, I don't like lowering myself to equal their level and that's not what Dee is asking on her blog, this goes back to what we commented last month when name-calling and arguing gets us nowhere.<BR/><BR/>My stance is the same as Dee's stance on immigration, your beliefs pat, as well as MANY ANTI'S is that all ILLEEEEEEGALS need to be deported, NO EXCEPTIONS, a fence built around the country to stop further ILLEEEEGALS from crossing over, let me ask you, do you or any ANTI'S honestly think that this will ever happen? What official is going to commit economic disaster? My answer would be no, no person or party will EVER let that happen, so then what now? If we don't build a fence, If we don't deport all ILLEEEEGALS, what now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-19889944790589638572008-05-23T12:34:00.000-05:002008-05-23T12:34:00.000-05:00anon 1, what you are missing here is that the KKK ...anon 1, what you are missing here is that the KKK and such groups are opposed to all persons of color. We anti's are not! We just want immigrants to come here legally no matter what their skin color or ethnicity is and yes it does partly have to do with retaining our culture and traditional ethnic makeup in this country also. Just as Mexico and all of Latin America does. We cannot do that with uncontrolled and unlimited illegal immigration.<BR/><BR/>Here is another reason that causes American's alarm about this uncontrolled illegal immigration from mostly the south of us. <BR/><BR/> I never thought that it was the illiterate peasant coming from Mexico that was screaming reconquista. However, what IS happening is that after they get here, they and their children--ESPECIALLY their children--are indoctrinated by the leftist Chicano nationalists and Socialists into this anti-American ideology. It is a political movement based on revanchism and ethnic/racial chauvanism and victimology. <BR/><BR/>So, I don't give a RIP whether the illegals THEMSELVES are of the reconquista mindset when they first come here. The facts are that they provide a pool from which the Chicano nationalists draw from to build up their movement. The children are indoctrinated in hundred of MEChA chapters all over the country and in the public schools in the Southwest just like the one in Arizona. Would this be going on without the tidal wave of illegals?? The ideology would probably still exist, but would have too few numbers to make a difference, just like the Black nationalist movement never was able to garner the numbers. But, bring 50 million or so more in, fill their heads up with resentment, hatred, and contempt and a sense of righteous grievance and then let's see. <BR/><BR/>This is just common sense. Bottom line: as long as there as those here on THIS side of the border working feverishly on the anti-American agenda and using these people to accomplish their goals, we best keep their potential recruits out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-41970703535097296862008-05-23T09:32:00.000-05:002008-05-23T09:32:00.000-05:00racist american?so are you a Neo-Nazi? KKK member?...racist american?<BR/>so are you a Neo-Nazi? KKK member?<BR/>if you like MAYBERRY so much<BR/>why don't you go live there?<BR/><BR/> (oh wait, you do live there in fantasy world)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-56056127525536939832008-05-22T17:35:00.000-05:002008-05-22T17:35:00.000-05:00mexican american? so are you an illegal alien? an ...mexican american?<BR/> so are you an illegal alien? an anchor baby?<BR/> if you like mexico so much<BR/>why dont you go live there?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-79127289713300065522008-05-22T17:34:00.000-05:002008-05-22T17:34:00.000-05:00we won the pro-enforcement people won . the ones y...we won the pro-enforcement people won . the ones you describe as puppets and robots .we won! <BR/> isn't it great!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-87454798679209632362008-05-22T16:15:00.000-05:002008-05-22T16:15:00.000-05:00dee, and just recently I provided a link for you t...dee, and just recently I provided a link for you to an article dated in April of this year of all the improvements that have been made to Hutto in particular. How soon we forget, right dee?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-32307838502332694932008-05-22T15:17:00.000-05:002008-05-22T15:17:00.000-05:00Pat,I have written and provided urls for Family De...Pat,<BR/>I have written and provided urls for Family Detention centers several times. Go back and look. I have provided the documentation!<BR/><BR/>Also if you are interested, do some google searches on privately owned prisons in Texas and those that imprison illegal immigrants and families. There have been many protests!!<BR/>Facts are facts!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-38759020934242486522008-05-21T21:38:00.000-05:002008-05-21T21:38:00.000-05:00dee, where is your proof that whole families are a...dee, where is your proof that whole families are arrested to gain more money per head? You are always the one demanding proof from us anti's well put up or shut up!<BR/><BR/>Yes, of course I know that they are "detainees". Who the hell do you think you are talking to... a child? <BR/><BR/>What is bogus about holding these detainees until there is enough of them to deport back to their homeland? Although I would prefer they expediate them faster to their homelands. You are just trying to dig up as much bogus dirt as possible because you want illegals running loose in our country. Grow some American backbone will you? Isn't it about time after your supposed family has been here for over 200 years?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-45611761651312953792008-05-21T20:21:00.000-05:002008-05-21T20:21:00.000-05:00Pat,Do you understand these private prisons are ow...Pat,<BR/>Do you understand these private prisons are owned by friends of the GOP? Do you understand they are paid by the head? I think it is something like $91 a day. They arrest whole families because that is more $ per head.<BR/>Do you understand they are not "official" prisoners. In fact, they dont call them prisoners. They are called "detainees." <BR/>I think it is interesting that the sweeps occur in companies with a high rate of OTMs (other than Mexican). It is only the OTMs that are held in these crony owned detention centers. (More $$ per day) They are held until they are processed, receive their day in court. Then once they are identified as illegal immigrants from OTM, they are put "on hold" until their are sufficient detainees from their country of origin for them to "economically" fund a return trip. <BR/><BR/>This is all so Bogus! And you don´t even GET IT!!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-88176470760444204752008-05-21T17:43:00.000-05:002008-05-21T17:43:00.000-05:00AG Bill has been pulled from the Iraq War Funding ...AG Bill has been pulled from the Iraq War Funding Bill. It was killed by a member of the Hispanic Caucus.<BR/><BR/>"But the Senate's rules left some non-spending add-ons like the immigrant labor provisions vulnerable, by allowing any senator to knock them out on a procedural move.<BR/><BR/>Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., objected to the immigrant farm labor provision, added to the measure at a hearing last week by Sens. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Larry Craig, R-Idaho. It would allow almost 1.4 million immigrant farm workers to stay in the United States for up to five years to ease a shortage of farm workers that has left some crops rotting in the fields.<BR/><BR/>Menendez' move also killed a measure by Sens. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., and Judd Gregg, R-N.H., to extend an expired program to allow seasonal workers to return to the country using H-2B visas.<BR/><BR/>A spokesman said Menendez acted because the two immigration provisions were tilted in favor of businesses while doing too little to help immigrant workers."<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/washington/AP-Congress-Iraq-Funding.html?_r=1&oref=slogin" REL="nofollow">Senate loads up war funding bill with other things</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-76536243131997100112008-05-19T21:17:00.000-05:002008-05-19T21:17:00.000-05:00What is "horrible" about so-called crony owned det...What is "horrible" about so-called crony owned detention centers? The illegals have to be detained one way or another. What would you have happen? Let them loose in the streets? Oh, that's right! That IS what you want. What happened to you in life dee, that made you turn your back on your own country for some ethnocentric loyalty?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-439675734417209112008-05-19T21:14:00.000-05:002008-05-19T21:14:00.000-05:00That is a lie, dee. I already posted an article a...That is a lie, dee. I already posted an article a few weeks back whereby an employer had been imprisoned for KNOWLINGLY hiring illegal aliens. <BR/><BR/>If some of the other employers weren't imprisoned, then that means the above wasn't proven! What part of criminal investigation and justice don't you understand?<BR/><BR/>Why don't you leave your blog for a few days and come back with a less nasty attitude?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-4010566252900213322008-05-19T20:52:00.000-05:002008-05-19T20:52:00.000-05:00No one should support Feinstein in her effort to t...No one should support Feinstein in her effort to tack this inappropriate measure on the Iraq supplemental appropriation bill. That's just dead wrong.<BR/><BR/>We make a big issue out of encouraging everyone to vote but yet Pelosi singlehandedly as prevented an up or down vote on SAVE. What kind of a democracy does that represent?ultimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13624967903736347171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-43374509528507910322008-05-19T20:30:00.000-05:002008-05-19T20:30:00.000-05:00Illegal Immigrants imprisoned.Crony Owned Private ...Illegal Immigrants imprisoned.<BR/>Crony Owned Private Prison owners PAID!! That is all your side supports!<BR/>Horrible!!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-34236117887105140152008-05-19T20:29:00.000-05:002008-05-19T20:29:00.000-05:00Pat, That is your sides problem.To date, NO EMPLOY...Pat, That is your sides problem.<BR/>To date, NO EMPLOYER has been imprisoned. Meanwhile, thousands of IEs have been imprisoned in the heinous, crony owned detention centers-tent prisons. Why is it your side only supports the IEs being imprisoned and their cronies paid? Why is it, even though the sweeps have been occurring for years, to date, the owners have not spent any time in prison? Also, Pilgrims Pride and Swift Owners have NOT been charged for any crimes, even though the sweeps occurred in their locations years ago?<BR/><BR/>Do you have an answer? <BR/>Nope! None!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-86551655684205790422008-05-19T20:13:00.000-05:002008-05-19T20:13:00.000-05:00DEE,do you have a reading comprehension problem? ...DEE,do you have a reading comprehension problem? I said it takes an investigation of the employers to prove that they KNOWINGLY hired illegal aliens before they can be arrested and then convictied. DO YOU GET IT NOW?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-12467383739438321192008-05-19T18:50:00.000-05:002008-05-19T18:50:00.000-05:00Actually what has happened:Agriprocessors: 700 mig...Actually what has happened:<BR/><BR/>Agriprocessors: 700 migrants jailed. No Employers jailed.<BR/><BR/>Pilgrims Pride: hundreds migrants jailed. No employers jailed.<BR/><BR/>Swift: hundreds migrants jailed. No employers jailed.<BR/><BR/>New Bedford-Insolia: hundreds migrants swept to detention centers. No employers jailed!!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-91345625342495542732008-05-19T16:34:00.000-05:002008-05-19T16:34:00.000-05:00The enforcement arm of any federal agency will go ...The enforcement arm of any federal agency will go after the big guys to make the news, thereby sending a message that they mean business. This was the rule at FDA and I believe still is. They don't have the manpower or budget to chase the little guy unless something really egregious happens. I worked in regulatory affairs. I know how the system works.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-73921475223100547222008-05-19T16:10:00.000-05:002008-05-19T16:10:00.000-05:00NO, dee! I already posted an article awhile back...NO, dee! I already posted an article awhile back that stated that an employer was sent to prison for KNOWLINGLY employing illegal aliens amd that was just one example. When an employer is convicted and sentenced you may or may not know about it. It's not like it is headline news you know! What part of an investigation has to happen first to prove or disprove an employer's KNOWINGLY hiring illegal aliens, don't you get?<BR/><BR/>The fake documents that the illegals provide these employers are usually pretty authentic looking. Much of what is happening is in the HR department. I know of an HR person (Hispanic, go figure) that was fired for knowlingly hiring illegal aliens. This is why we need the Save Act to pass so that the employers can't feign ignorance anymore. But of course you object to that because it would mean the illegals get fired and not hired. Can't have that, now can we?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-30148249880981985442008-05-19T16:01:00.000-05:002008-05-19T16:01:00.000-05:00LiquidI totally disagree with your statement. In r...Liquid<BR/>I totally disagree with your statement. In reality, what is happening is, ICE is going after high profile companies in order to make "Breaing News!" and conducting sweeps, arresting-detaining illegal immigrants and allowing the businesses and their owners to go scot free!<BR/><BR/>Liquids statement:<BR/>The administration is going after companies hiring "Illegal Immigrants".Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-4779063407334266492008-05-19T11:49:00.000-05:002008-05-19T11:49:00.000-05:00dee, one can see how weak your argument is for leg...dee, one can see how weak your argument is for legalizing all of the illegals or importing more foreign workers. Ag workers only comprise about 2% of our workforce. How do you justify legalizing the rest of them who are not doing ag jobs but doing jobs that Americans will do for a fair wage?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com