tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post6778521674048358561..comments2024-01-04T07:05:27.381-06:00Comments on Immigration Talk with a Mexican American: Stating the Obvious: Reports indicate Hate Groups on the Rise in America!Deehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comBlogger89125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-80512997129624912032008-06-18T12:45:00.000-05:002008-06-18T12:45:00.000-05:00The black and Hispanic gangs are killing each othe...The black and Hispanic gangs are killing each other because of race. It is both gang related and racially motivated. Also, there has been a rise in anti-white hate crimes committed by blacks. These anti-white crimes are not reported by the mainstream media.Outreacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15105442375799791174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-29473233199810152052008-06-18T12:31:00.000-05:002008-06-18T12:31:00.000-05:00Dee, As a white man, I have experienced racism ag...Dee, <BR/><BR/>As a white man, I have experienced racism against me by blacks in college and the army. My first college roommate was black and he would make fun of my clothes, pinch my skin and remark how it would change color (because Caucasian flesh reacts differently to a pinch or similar pressure). Groups of blacks hanging out in the dorm would see me then taunt or throw footballs at me as hard as they could. When I wasn't familiar with a black custom or a black rapper, etc., someone would say, "where are you from crackerville?" It was a long time ago and I have forgotten about it, but you have to admit, this happens to whites too. What about your sons? How would you like it if these things happened to them?Outreacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15105442375799791174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-19434615670142560092008-06-18T12:15:00.000-05:002008-06-18T12:15:00.000-05:00The black and Hispanic gangs are killing each othe...The black and Hispanic gangs are killing each other because of race. It is both gang related and racially motivated. Also, there has been a rise in anti-white hate crimes committed by blacks. These anti-white crimes are not reported by the mainstream media.Outreacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15105442375799791174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-20197977872210627172008-06-12T18:27:00.000-05:002008-06-12T18:27:00.000-05:00Dee said:"FACTS are FACTS.For you to refute the FA...Dee said:<BR/>"FACTS are FACTS.<BR/>For you to refute the FACT that racism against Blacks and Latinos exists in this country is beyond Ludicrous."<BR/><BR/>Yes, but we are talking about it in schools as to why there is such a big drop out rate of Latino's. Don't go trying to change the subject matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-25319344142721843062008-06-12T11:34:00.000-05:002008-06-12T11:34:00.000-05:00Liquid,I would say you read blogs through Rose Col...Liquid,<BR/>I would say you read blogs through Rose Colored glasses in order to read your own interpretation, however, more likely, they are smoke stained.<BR/><BR/>FACTS are FACTS.<BR/>For you to refute the FACT that racism against Blacks and Latinos exists in this country is beyond Ludicrous.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-31835090689691613102008-06-11T18:39:00.000-05:002008-06-11T18:39:00.000-05:00Here Dee, blow some more smoke up our butts. At no...Here Dee, blow some more smoke up our butts. At no point are they in agreement with you about Racism being in our schools. Deal with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-8683252707255364622008-06-11T16:39:00.000-05:002008-06-11T16:39:00.000-05:00There is racism against every race, including Whi...There is racism against every race, including Whites. Lord knows I have read enough racist remarks towards Whites on the Hispanic Business Forum and a lot of other pro-illegal sites. <BR/><BR/>Racism has nothing to do with how a student does in school. You either apply yourself accademically with support from your own family or you fail no matter what your race or skin color is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-86957531214476555222008-06-11T15:54:00.000-05:002008-06-11T15:54:00.000-05:00They said "In Total Agreement!" FACTS are FACTS.Fo...They said "In Total Agreement!" <BR/><BR/>FACTS are FACTS.<BR/>For you to refute the FACT that racism against Blacks and Latinos exists in this country is beyond Ludicrous.<BR/><BR/>But then, thats you.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-8631148219205480242008-06-11T15:16:00.000-05:002008-06-11T15:16:00.000-05:00Thats your own response from over there, its your ...Thats your own response from over there, its your answer not a response. Nobody over there even commented about your charge of Racism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-23821340506959969392008-06-11T10:24:00.000-05:002008-06-11T10:24:00.000-05:00I liked this response:"The resolutions are primari...I liked this response:<BR/><BR/>"The resolutions are primarily about individual student and parent accountability!<BR/>Yes we have innercity issues, POVERTY, RACISM and Political Issues as Obstacles, but they are NOT barriers. (What doesnt kill us does make us stronger)"<BR/><BR/>And all over there agreed!!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-74711530138402351372008-06-11T08:21:00.000-05:002008-06-11T08:21:00.000-05:00Liquid, I wonder how many of the 50% dropout rate ...Liquid, I wonder how many of the 50% dropout rate from school among Latinos are children here illegally? Obviously their parents that are here illegally also are uneducated and are of those poor in Mexico that believe in starting work as soon as possible to support the family rather than staying in school. Maybe there is no way of telling as our schools aren't allowed to ask a student's status in this country but I have the feeling that these are the students that hold the largest percentage of the dropout rate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-74570581160430592232008-06-10T22:13:00.000-05:002008-06-10T22:13:00.000-05:00Sorry, but I cant say the same for you on this one...Sorry, but I cant say the same for you on this one JRios. Lo siento.<BR/><BR/>You can't legislate parenthood. Unless of course you want a draconian system in place a la Albania. An education is NOT a right JRios, but rather a privilege. I think you mean that the opportunity of an education is a right (which I agree). There is a difference. Now what the individual does with it is out of the hands of the state (the govt). If someone has no interest in taking advantage of the opportunity for an education (as is the case with ohhhhhh sooooo many) WHY then should the govt or you and I or anyone else have to step in?<BR/><BR/>It appears that you want to legislate parenthood. Are you now looking to legislate ambition, desire, and career success? This is a slippery slope that you are creating here. Take my word for it. The govt is NOT the answer to our problems. The day they are, is the day nos chingamos nosotros.<BR/><BR/>Now if "white people are addressing the problems" more effectively then maybe we should tear a page out of their handbook. The Asians are sure the hell doing a pretty good job of educating their kids. Almost half of the top 100 colleges and universities in the nation have a strong Asian contingency; and most of them are first generation Americans too. They had the same access to the same education that most Latinos have.<BR/><BR/>Understand that the government has never been an integral part of the American educational experience other than to provide funds for the school districts, and funds I believe is a relatively miniscule part of the problem. Asian kids in highly Asian populated Garden Grove and Westminister California (where there are also Latinos and whites) have succeeded and many are in our top colleges & universities. No parental or personal ambition legislation required there.<BR/><BR/>As for the great depression, we can thank FDR for creating a welfare state. No thank you, please. Let the hobos work for a living.<BR/><BR/>I have no idea what you mean that our "Hispanic Culture has been left out of funding"?<BR/><BR/>I don't want our state or federal govts to legislate parenthood. Nor do I want them to legislate ganas or ambition or desire.<BR/><BR/>This reminds me of the African American sports announcer who asked why there weren't more African Americans in baseball? And why have the numbers been dropping over the last 30 years? Now are we to assume based on this logic that the govt should intervene and force more black kids to play baseball? If so, then we could then ask why are there not more Chicanos in the N.B.A.? Why are there not more Chicanos or Latinos in the N.H.L.? Should the govt step in and legislate our desire and career ambitions for professional sports?<BR/><BR/>If our culture does not embrace or re-enforce in our children the value of an education as other cultures in our country have and with significant success, then maybe it's not the govt where our problems lie.<BR/>Go to Top of Page<BR/><BR/>Jrios<BR/>Moderator<BR/><BR/>136 Posts<BR/> <BR/>Posted - 06/10/2008 : 6:12:33 PM Show Profile Visit Jrios's Homepage Reply with Quote<BR/>In the time it took you to put all of that graciously together we lost about 30 kids.<BR/>Disposable Hispanic America<BR/>Go to Top of Page<BR/><BR/>Chuey07<BR/>Forum Scholar<BR/><BR/>2351 Posts<BR/> <BR/>Posted - 06/10/2008 : 7:05:27 PM Show Profile Reply with Quote<BR/>No, on the contrary. We kept 100 from being govt-dependent and more importantly instilled the value of an education.<BR/><BR/>We don't need the nanny-welfare state.<BR/><BR/>Besides I agree with Tony, talk is cheap, offer up a plan of action. If offering up a plan of action is too time consuming ni modo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-8201916157703427972008-06-10T22:11:00.000-05:002008-06-10T22:11:00.000-05:00Seems Chuey has it very "Right" over @ HB doesn't ...Seems Chuey has it very "Right" over @ HB doesn't it Dee?? Your claim of "Racism" in our schools is desperate on your part. Rios is still an "Idiot"!! LMAOAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-89319119171658429372008-06-10T18:54:00.000-05:002008-06-10T18:54:00.000-05:00I'm not tiffed. I was going by what you had said t...I'm not tiffed. I was going by what you had said to Pat in the other topic. I was not aware you were ribbing as we were discussing points, for which I "ribbed" back then with what I stated.<BR/><BR/>I am "ribbing" you Anon1! above.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-65341437150173907472008-06-10T18:45:00.000-05:002008-06-10T18:45:00.000-05:00Dee said:"Poverty and Racism go hand in hand."You ...Dee said:<BR/>"Poverty and Racism go hand in hand."<BR/><BR/>You got to be kidding me. Talk about the victim strategy. What happened to we are all equal, we all have the same opportunities? Bill Cosby explains it quite well, do some research.<BR/><BR/>I have no doubt that you wouldn't question my intelligence, you couldn't keep up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-74122553030289382762008-06-10T10:16:00.000-05:002008-06-10T10:16:00.000-05:00Anon1,Thats ok. He is just a little tiffed becuz I...Anon1,<BR/>Thats ok. He is just a little tiffed becuz I kidded him about his Alzeimer meds. (he always says things like "dumb things down" to me and he could not take a little rubbing about AZ meds. LOL)Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-78004673148715817362008-06-10T10:08:00.000-05:002008-06-10T10:08:00.000-05:00"And before you open your mouth Anon1 in defense o..."And before you open your mouth Anon1 in defense of Dee, you better go back and re-read this discussion to see when and where Dee first degraded my intelligence."<BR/><BR/>Why're you pickin' on me? I would NEVER question YOUR intelligence.<BR/>::evil grin::Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-8375493608604014712008-06-10T09:52:00.000-05:002008-06-10T09:52:00.000-05:00But I agree it takes more than good schools, it ta...But I agree it takes more than good schools, it takes an attentive parent. My sons knew they had to complete their education and they had to find and achieve their careers. There was no sitting at home for them.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-55186581790742998602008-06-10T09:50:00.000-05:002008-06-10T09:50:00.000-05:00Poverty and Racism go hand in hand. Many Blacks an...Poverty and Racism go hand in hand. Many Blacks and Latinos live in the inner cities. The schools in the inner cities are usually not well funded. The teaching staff is not the best. The student to teacher ratio is xx to 1. It is difficult for the student to learn and rarely do they receive the same motivational support as in the suburbs.<BR/><BR/>I moved my kids out to the suburbs. My youngest had a reading disability and I did not like the support he was NOT provided. <BR/>Any time I made a company move, I looked for the neighborhoods with the highest school ratings and my sons issues were quickly resolved.<BR/><BR/>The schools are like night and day, from innercity to wealthy suburb. One particular area in Missouri had the highest ratings in the state. The schools took a special interest in their children, particularly in the sports programs. The student to teacher ratio was x to 1. The after school extra curricular activities were very attentive and hands-on with teacher and aid volunteers. Yet, inner city KC had the worst schools in the state, the lowest academic scores, etc.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-4537998449630114702008-06-10T09:41:00.000-05:002008-06-10T09:41:00.000-05:00Again, you are missing my point Liquid. No one is ...Again, you are missing my point Liquid. No one is saying racism is an excuse. What I said is, it is a reality. <BR/><BR/>Beyond this reality, it is up to each parent to instill the work and study ethic into their children. Mentor them to complete their education and obtain a good career. <BR/><BR/>My father always taught us that you will get knocked down hundreds of times in your life. You are measured by your ability to get up afterwards. Always get up. Never take a handout. Work hard. Do a good job. <BR/><BR/>Sometimes I think the school of hard knocks is a good thing. I have seen so many people in my career who had things handed to the throughout their lives and careers, then when one thing went wrong, they lost it. They could not get up. Very sad.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-58805227435837626992008-06-09T22:27:00.000-05:002008-06-09T22:27:00.000-05:00Dee said:"You just want me to say Hispanics are no...Dee said:<BR/>"You just want me to say Hispanics are not educatable and are stupider than you and yours. Not going to say it because its not true. I am also NOT going to say that we as parents dont try as much as you because I know we do."<BR/><BR/>If this is what you think, obviously you have not been following along. You tend to double talk.<BR/><BR/>Example:<BR/>We are all equal. Our children were born with the same God given rights yours were. All children of all colors are born with the same gifts.<BR/><BR/>All parents need to support and challenge their children to be the best they can be.<BR/><BR/>Chuey said it. I said it.<BR/><BR/>Then you go and say this:<BR/>The root cause of your not getting it is because you fail to acknowledge there is racism in America against Blacks and Latinos.<BR/><BR/><BR/>So which is it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-7829689459068712262008-06-09T22:25:00.000-05:002008-06-09T22:25:00.000-05:00Dee said:"The root cause of your not getting it is...Dee said:<BR/>"The root cause of your not getting it is because you fail to acknowledge there is racism in America against Blacks and Latinos."<BR/><BR/>Are you then saying children of Blacks and Hispanics need special attention in school because they are being taught White education? What racism exists in school? If Hispanic and Black children are American Citizens, are they then not going to achieve in school, if they apply themselves, as any other student? What is the reasoning behind the drop out rates being so high? Only racism against Blacks and Hispanics? What about the Asians?<BR/><BR/>This can't be your argument, could it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-76588616129767660632008-06-09T21:55:00.000-05:002008-06-09T21:55:00.000-05:00The root cause of your not getting it is because y...The root cause of your not getting it is because you fail to acknowledge there is racism in America against Blacks and Latinos.<BR/><BR/>It is as plain as the nose on your face. We all know it is there.<BR/><BR/>What is important is for we minorities not to let racism stop us from achieving all we can achieve. WE must stand strong and be resilient! My father taught us this and I taught the same to my children.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-1968011206536129892008-06-09T21:32:00.000-05:002008-06-09T21:32:00.000-05:00You missed it again. What did I say about supporti...You missed it again. What did I say about supporting our children, mentoring and being resilient.<BR/><BR/>You choose to read what you want to read.<BR/><BR/>We are all equal. Our children were born with the same God given rights yours were. All children of all colors are born with the same gifts.<BR/><BR/>All parents need to support and challenge their children to be the best they can be. <BR/><BR/>Chuey said it. I said it.<BR/><BR/>Somewhere deep inside your soul you know this is true. <BR/><BR/>You just want me to say Hispanics are not educatable and are stupider than you and yours. Not going to say it because its not true. I am also NOT going to say that we as parents dont try as much as you because I know we do. <BR/><BR/>What I will say is all parents should support their children and challenge them to be the best they can be.<BR/><BR/>I would match mine to yours or any one here any day of the week!<BR/><BR/>You just dont get it!!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-3451949747659901782008-06-09T20:13:00.000-05:002008-06-09T20:13:00.000-05:00your posts on HB on the topic go unanswered, becau...your posts on HB on the topic go unanswered, because they were way beyond a tangent, although Chuey07 gets it quite well:<BR/><BR/>JRios, you had me in agreement 100% up until you shift the blame to the politicians.<BR/><BR/>The day I leave it up to a politician or political party to control mine or my children's future and destiny is the day I hand in my resignation on life. It is not the government's job or responsibility to ensure my success in life. It is MINE.<BR/><BR/>My children's academic success doesn't have a single thing to do with either the state, federal or local govts. It has to do with mom and dad being there to kick little Chuey07, Jr. and his siblings in the seat of their pants if they don’t get straight A's.<BR/><BR/>Education is absolutely crucial to success in life. Agree? Education begins in the home. Education must have the support and foundation at home, where the values are instilled and re-enforced. Therefore the home is crucial to the success of our children.<BR/><BR/>God help us if some 3rd rate political hack (as most are) ever becomes an integral factor to our children's success. I cringe and shudder at the thought.<BR/><BR/>I want the politicians out of my face and according to you you want them in our face or in our lives. No thanks. I like it better when they're out of the loop. You had it right the first time. Personal responsibility is key.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Sorry, YOU just DON'T GET IT!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com