tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post6912761720986631851..comments2024-01-04T07:05:27.381-06:00Comments on Immigration Talk with a Mexican American: Joe Biden - A Good Man with a Nice Family and our Next Vice President!Deehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-72369953444690308362008-08-28T16:59:00.000-05:002008-08-28T16:59:00.000-05:00Obama isn't making health insurance mandatory for ...Obama isn't making health insurance mandatory for all to purchase. That is a bad plan. At least Hillary was making it mandatory for everyone to have. Obama only seemed to care about kids having healthcare. What about adults? The older you get the more you need healthcare, not the younger you are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-50586366237653728882008-08-28T10:47:00.000-05:002008-08-28T10:47:00.000-05:00Arizonian,My point was, Bush, at the time of his c...Arizonian,<BR/>My point was, Bush, at the time of his candidacy for Prez, had only his political experience as Gov of TX. He did poorly. He was placed in office by his daddy and his cronies. <BR/>Try reading Big Bob Bullocks biography!! All Good Ole Boy Cronies with Big Daddy!!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-50455885704465454642008-08-28T00:30:00.000-05:002008-08-28T00:30:00.000-05:00Dee,These "positives" you list have no teeth. Mean...Dee,<BR/><BR/>These "positives" you list have no teeth. Meaning, I haven't heard him say, and seen any evidence, of how he will improve these things you mention. <BR/><BR/>I do not argue with him having <I>a</I> strategy, but without him saying what the strategy is, I can not say it is a <I>good</I> strategy.<BR/><BR/>And why should <I>you</I> pay for <I>my</I> health insurance? <BR/><BR/>"Obama is intelligent. He is more experienced than Bush."<BR/><BR/>The first may or may not be true. The second is an all out lie. Obama has never been president. How could he have more experience than the man that has spent the last 8 years of his life doing? <BR/><BR/>Has him being a lawyer make him more experienced? Does being a US Senator for two years make him more experienced? Does being a state Senator for 7 years make him more experienced? <BR/><BR/>Lets take Bush(as much as I dislike him):<BR/><BR/>Started his own company, merged with a larger company, which he chaired. Then that company merged with another large company in which he sat on the board of directors. (running large entities)<BR/><BR/>Then he became the Governor of Texas(hey, that is where you live) in which he served 5 years. (running a large governing body).<BR/><BR/>Then he was elected President (Gore lost, get over it already) in which he served 8 years. <BR/><BR/>Obama:<BR/>Spent 3 years as the director for Developing Communities Project.<BR/><BR/>Then went to law school. <BR/><BR/>Then worked as a lawyer for 2 years.<BR/><BR/>Obama directed Illinois Project Vote for 7 months. <BR/><BR/>Then Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years.<BR/><BR/>Then he worked for a law firm, Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland for 3 years. Then he was counsil from 1996 to 2004 (which is funny considering his law license became inactive in 2002).<BR/><BR/>Obama had served as a state senator for 7 years.<BR/><BR/>Then as a US senator for 2 years.<BR/><BR/>Ok, time for some simple math. <BR/>Number of years Obama has running a Government institution: 0<BR/><BR/>Number of years Bush has running a government institution: 13<BR/><BR/>A senator does not run a government body, sorry.......https://www.blogger.com/profile/04308481390438662506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-49536775225191859512008-08-27T19:15:00.000-05:002008-08-27T19:15:00.000-05:00Arizonian, Did you know Dubya´s intent 4 or 8 year...Arizonian, <BR/>Did you know Dubya´s intent 4 or 8 years ago? He was the least competent and least experienced of any President to date. Yet he became President. <BR/><BR/>Obama is intelligent. He is more experienced than Bush. He has a good strategy for moving us forward. He will proceed diplomatically vs McCain´s style of “my way or no way.”<BR/>Positives:<BR/>1. Economy<BR/>2. Diplomat Across the World<BR/>3. Universal Healthcare and Needs of Americans<BR/><BR/>I think Obama will be a GREAT President!!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-74027437057033407322008-08-27T19:09:00.000-05:002008-08-27T19:09:00.000-05:00Liquid, I understand you. I was just kidding. You ...Liquid, I understand you. I was just kidding. You responded. I kidded back. You didnt get it. Now you are responding negatively. <BR/><BR/>No big deal.<BR/><BR/>Maybe someday I will explain my initial response to you. I will, ONLY on a day YOU play nice!!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-3414169725256176252008-08-27T03:07:00.000-05:002008-08-27T03:07:00.000-05:00Voting on the issues is exactly why I can not vote...Voting on the issues is exactly why I can not vote for Barak. Why you ask? <BR/><BR/>It's simple really, I don't know what he intends to do. As I have stated before, not all change is good. Without knowing the what and how he intends to change, I'm reserved. <BR/><BR/>The war monger comments are over-played. After all, Clinton had us involved in more armed conflicts than Bush, but liberals seem to forget that. After all, I was one of those sent to these not-so-exotic lands......<BR/><BR/>And just in case you forgot federal law:<BR/>BUSH ISN'T RUNNING FOR OFFICE AGAIN........https://www.blogger.com/profile/04308481390438662506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-42348871625918876722008-08-26T19:57:00.000-05:002008-08-26T19:57:00.000-05:00Sorry, you don't understand my humor. Maybe we sho...Sorry, you don't understand my humor. Maybe we should start calling you monkey butt ;-}~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-84097842799528576802008-08-26T19:47:00.000-05:002008-08-26T19:47:00.000-05:00Actually Liquid, I just got you to prove you have ...Actually Liquid, I just got you to prove you have no sense of humor!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-81086031409420226322008-08-26T19:36:00.000-05:002008-08-26T19:36:00.000-05:00She gave us the answers as to how she thinks: Freu...She gave us the answers as to how she thinks: Freudian or Orwellian.<BR/><BR/>She either has deep down desires to have a chimp implanted in her due to repressed desires, or her reality is constructed to suit the needs of the moment.<BR/><BR/>Either way, she just gave up her entire arguments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-46495098557485927302008-08-26T19:25:00.000-05:002008-08-26T19:25:00.000-05:00Dee, I honor the 14th Amendment as it is interpret...Dee, I honor the 14th Amendment as it is interpreted today but it does need re-interpretion, just like you want your version of CIR to pass, I am vying for this to pass. There are some very valid reasons to change the 14th Amendment and as I already told you, there is no plan to make it retroactive. So what would be your objection then?<BR/><BR/>Blackwater has nothing to do with just the e-verify part of the SAVE ACT. I am simply arguing for that part of it. Shouldn't employers be mandated to only hire those legally in our country? A simple answer will do.<BR/><BR/>As usual you sidestepped replying to most of the points that I made.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-82232619928927247252008-08-26T19:20:00.000-05:002008-08-26T19:20:00.000-05:00It's all about Semantics, one word can change the ...It's all about Semantics, one word can change the entire meaning of a sentence!!! Remember that!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-52916620215603483842008-08-26T19:10:00.000-05:002008-08-26T19:10:00.000-05:00My typo was either Freudian or Orwellian!My typo was either Freudian or Orwellian!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-65802024634055797002008-08-26T17:23:00.000-05:002008-08-26T17:23:00.000-05:00Dee says:"Does everify expand to a chimp implanted...Dee says:<BR/>"Does everify expand to a chimp implanted in all of us? I dont want that."<BR/><BR/>I don't want a chimp implanted in me either, I think the tail sticking out would not only look funny, but may very well hurt!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-23824866575381394242008-08-26T17:18:00.000-05:002008-08-26T17:18:00.000-05:00Pat,Gee. Long response from you.1. Jus Soli is rul...Pat,<BR/>Gee. Long response from you.<BR/>1. Jus Soli is rule of law. I support the current policy and would want to study any recommendations before supporting any alternative policies.<BR/>2. eVerify: I have studied both sides to this issue. My main priority is for exploitation to end. As I said, I flip flop on this issue. Big Brother aspects? Think of Blackwater patrolling our border and their unmanned aircraft monitoring our neighborhoods! I dont want that! Does everify expand to a chimp implanted in all of us? I dont want that. Do I want the end to worker exploitation? Yes. Can we limit the government to only enforcing this aspect? I dont know. Therefore I flip flop!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-90374585456056574152008-08-26T17:14:00.000-05:002008-08-26T17:14:00.000-05:00Arizonian,I agree. We should vote the issues. We s...Arizonian,<BR/>I agree. We should vote the issues. We should study the background and the beliefs of each candidate. Then, with knowledge, select our candidate of choice.<BR/><BR/>I do support Barack Obama! He is the candidate of change. He will improve the Economy and be a Diplomat vs a War Monger.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-59396349967051496172008-08-26T14:35:00.000-05:002008-08-26T14:35:00.000-05:00Quote dee: birthright citizenship: I have said I ...Quote dee: birthright citizenship: I have said I agree with the current Jus Soli policy. However I would like to see the proposal for changing the 14th ammendment. I see too many websites that discuss retroactive 14th Ammendment aspects to such bills. Even my repatriation blog has comments promoting return to country of parents. <BR/><BR/>WHY ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF CONTINUING TO MAKE CHILDREN OF ILLEGAL ALIENS, INSTANT CITIZENS? WHO CARES ABOUT WHAT THE COMMMENTS ON BLOGS ARE SAYING? THERE IS NO LEGISLATION PENDING ON THIS MATTER THAT WOULD MAKE IT RETROACTIVE SO THAT BLOWS YOUR ARGUMENT ON THAT ONE!<BR/><BR/>. mandatory E-verification: My position continues to change on this issue. I want to see the end of worker exploitation. However I have seen both sides argue against mandatory e verification due to the "Big Brother" aspects and loss of Civil Liberties. Call me a flip flopper. I dont know.<BR/><BR/>HOW IS USING THE E-VERIFY SYSTEM TO IDENTIFY LEGAL WORKERS "BIG BROTHER" OR THE LOSS OF CIVIL LIBERTIES?<BR/><BR/>. secure borders with in depth defense based on internal enforcement and expeditious deportation: I am for secure borders. I want opportunities for the 12M to come out of the shadows and go into some legal status if they are felony free and the opportunity, if they so desire, to apply for citizenship. I do not believe any type of mass deportation, with attrition over 4 years or self deportation will work. <BR/><BR/>IF YOU WERE TRULY FOR SECURE BORDERS YOU WOULDN'T OBJECT TO THE FENCE OR INTERNAL ENFORCEMENT OF OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS. THERE IS NO REASON TO GIVE IMMIGRATION LAW BREAKERS A CHANCE TO COME OUT OF THE SHADOWS AND BECOME LEGALIZED...NONE WHATSOEVER! WHY WOULDN'T DRYING UP THE JOBS AND BENEFITS THAT ILLEGALS COME FOR, WORK? WHAT REASON WOULD THEY HAVE TO STAY HERE THEN?<BR/><BR/>. employer/employee sanctions: I am pushing harder for this than you are.<BR/><BR/>NO YOU ARE NOT! YOU ONLY WANT THE EMPLOYERS SANCTIONED, NOT THE ILLEGAL WORKERS.<BR/><BR/>. mass legalization: no. See above.<BR/><BR/>. increased immigration quotas, faster application process: the processes are backlogged and yes they need to be cleaned up. I think quotas by nation are a good idea. I want to see the end to manipulation of the system by our side and originating countries. (e.g. bribes, who you know, etc.)<BR/><BR/>HOW DO WE KNOW WE NEED INCREASED IMMIGRATION QUOTAS? BASED ON WHAT?<BR/><BR/>. finite natural resources vs population growth: I know your sides view. From a US perspective, I have not studied or blogged in this area.<BR/><BR/>WHY HAVEN'T YOU STUDIED IT? IT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE AND YOU SAY YOU STUDY EVERYTHING ELSE IN REGARDS TO IMMIGRATION. I THINK IT IS BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE JUST ONE MORE GOOD ARGUMENT AGAINST YOUR VIEWS AND YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS ASPECT OF IT.<BR/><BR/>. assimilation: I agree with Assimilation and grass roots support for Assimilation. We need more community efforts to help.<BR/><BR/>NOT ENTIRELY!<BR/><BR/>. Mexifornia:The SW from TX to CA have been majority minority states. Many arrived since the 80s and 90s. We need more community efforts to help with assimilation and education.<BR/><BR/>IT IS THE ILLEGALS MOSTLY THAT ARE NOT ASSIMILATING AND THEY NEED TO BE DEPORTED NOT ASSIMILATED.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>. Reducing cross border traffic: It has reduced. ICE said this is the lowest rate in decades.<BR/><BR/>URL? IRREGARDLESS THERE STILL IS AROUND 20 MILLION ILLEGALS IN THIS COUNTRY AND THAT IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.<BR/><BR/>. Detention: my view has been to STOP the Abuses and STOP Family Detention. (I have not changed my view on this one)<BR/><BR/>IF THERE STILL ARE ABUSES THEY SHOULD BE ADDRESSED BUT FAMILIES OR NOT, IF THEY ARE IMMIGRATION VIOLATORS THEY SHOULD BE DETAINED. I HAVE ASKED THIS QUESTION OVER AND OVER AND YOU NEVER ANSWER. "ISN'T IT BETTER TO KEEP THE CHILDREN WITH THEIR PARENTS IN DETENTION RATHER THAN TO SEPERATE THE FAMILIES"?<BR/><BR/>. Official English: I support National English. I see too many ANTI sites promoting the end to Spanish in public. Also local laws that resulted in negative impact to people talking among themselves. (I shared these previously - dont make me look for the links). I think this is just a tool by your side to stop Spanish assistance during voting. So you are right, have not changed my view on this one.<BR/><BR/>WHO THE HELL CARES WHAT THE ANTI SITES SAY!!!! THEY AREN'T THE ONES MAKING UP THE DETAILS OF THE OFFICIAL ENGLISH BILLS. THERE IS NOTHING IN THOSE PROPOSED BILLS THAT WILL MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR ANYONE TO SPEAK ANOTHER LANGUAGE IN PUBLIC!!! WHY DO YOU KEEP MENTIONING SPANISH IN PARTICULAR? THERE ARE OTHER MINORITY LANGUAGES SPOKEN IN THIS COUNTRY TOO. ONLY CITIZENS CAN VOTE AND THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK AND UNDERSTAND ENGLISH TO BECOME A CITIZEN. SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?? EVEN IF SOMEONE ISN'T QUITE PROFICIENT IN ENGLISH, THEY CAN BRING AN INTERPRETER WITH THEM. <BR/><BR/>Dee, you are just blowing smoke and mirrors as usual.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-16246274023123743932008-08-26T14:28:00.000-05:002008-08-26T14:28:00.000-05:00Two things about political flexibility:1. One whos...Two things about political flexibility:<BR/><BR/>1. One whose opinions sway like a reed in the wind, shouldn't be trusted. It only shows that they are out just to get elected, popularity, etc. People respect consistency more than pandering. <BR/><BR/>2. It is easy to be flexible when you have no spine. You have to stand up for what you believe in. Without integrity, they become just another power hungry politician out to make their dime.<BR/><BR/>When the issue gets complicated when you throw political parties into the mix. Parties rarely represent <I>all</I> the views of those that had aligned themselves with the party. Then the parties change their views like a reed in the wind in order to get their candidates elected. Parties seem to be their own living candidate. <BR/><BR/>This is why I no longer am apart of the Republican party. I believe they have strayed from their mission statement (at least in practice). But I am no Democrat either, they seem just as crazy and hard-headed on issues. Then whenever someone belonging to one party or another decides to reach out, to get things done, they are labeled as traitors by both sides. <BR/><BR/>Government should not be about political parties, just about responsible and fair governance..https://www.blogger.com/profile/04308481390438662506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-38741405802089889922008-08-26T12:58:00.000-05:002008-08-26T12:58:00.000-05:00No bounce because of Biden.Gallup daily tracking: ...No bounce because of Biden.<BR/>Gallup daily tracking: McCain 46%, Obama 44%.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-75662144215582060002008-08-26T11:46:00.000-05:002008-08-26T11:46:00.000-05:00I know you are very rigid on your position for the...I know you are very rigid on your position for the items you asked me about. But here goes my position on these items:<BR/><BR/>birthright citizenship: I have said I agree with the current Jus Soli policy. However I would like to see the proposal for changing the 14th ammendment. I see too many websites that discuss retroactive 14th Ammendment aspects to such bills. Even my repatriation blog has comments promoting return to country of parents. <BR/><BR/>. mandatory E-verification: My position continues to change on this issue. I want to see the end of worker exploitation. However I have seen both sides argue against mandatory e verification due to the "Big Brother" aspects and loss of Civil Liberties. Call me a flip flopper. I dont know.<BR/><BR/>. secure borders with in depth defense based on internal enforcement and expeditious deportation: I am for secure borders. I want opportunities for the 12M to come out of the shadows and go into some legal status if they are felony free and the opportunity, if they so desire, to apply for citizenship. I do not believe any type of mass deportation, with attrition over 4 years or self deportation will work. <BR/><BR/>. employer/employee sanctions: I am pushing harder for this than you are.<BR/><BR/>. mass legalization: no. See above.<BR/><BR/>. increased immigration quotas, faster application process: the processes are backlogged and yes they need to be cleaned up. I think quotas by nation are a good idea. I want to see the end to manipulation of the system by our side and originating countries. (e.g. bribes, who you know, etc.)<BR/><BR/>. finite natural resources vs population growth: I know your sides view. From a US perspective, I have not studied or blogged in this area.<BR/><BR/>. assimilation: I agree with Assimilation and grass roots support for Assimilation. We need more community efforts to help.<BR/><BR/>. Mexifornia:The SW from TX to CA have been majority minority states. Many arrived since the 80s and 90s. We need more community efforts to help with assimilation and education.<BR/><BR/>. Reducing cross border traffic: It has reduced. ICE said this is the lowest rate in decades.<BR/><BR/>.NAU, NAFTA: Let me see your proposals. We discuss Global Economy as they impact Immigration but we have not discussed how to resolve any of these issues.<BR/><BR/>. Detention: my view has been to STOP the Abuses and STOP Family Detention. (I have not changed my view on this one)<BR/><BR/>. Official English: I support National English. I see too many ANTI sites promoting the end to Spanish in public. Also local laws that resulted in negative impact to people talking among themselves. (I shared these previously - dont make me look for the links). I think this is just a tool by your side to stop Spanish assistance during voting. So you are right, have not changed my view on this one.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-59838358029247322332008-08-26T11:23:00.000-05:002008-08-26T11:23:00.000-05:00Ulty, Perhaps you forgot I modified my position an...Ulty, <BR/>Perhaps you forgot I modified my position and agreed with your advertising jobs recommendation. We also started writing a proposal together. Of course it was over a year ago but I thought it was a good starting effort.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-41169557085517147522008-08-26T10:43:00.000-05:002008-08-26T10:43:00.000-05:00Obama Speaks<A HREF="”www.youtube.com/" REL="nofollow">Obama Speaks</A>ultimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13624967903736347171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-80442198925966646622008-08-26T10:24:00.000-05:002008-08-26T10:24:00.000-05:00Things are not always what they seem.http://www.yo...Things are not always what they seem.<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/v/4FCNKwHRCQMultimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13624967903736347171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-91588636633861303412008-08-25T22:15:00.000-05:002008-08-25T22:15:00.000-05:00It has been so long ago. Perhaps you could remind...It has been so long ago. Perhaps you could remind us of your changes in position vis a vis: birthright citizenship, mandatory E-verification, secure borders with in depth defense based on internal enforcement and expeditious deportation,<BR/>employer/employee sanctions,mass legalization,increased immigration quotas,faster application process,finite natural resources vs population growth, assimilation, Mexifornia,reducing cross border traffic, NAU, NAFTA, detention,Official English,etc.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps you have forgotten that I was willing to consider allowing illegals to apply for legal status if they survived a re-advertising effort for all the jobs currently held by illegals and for all new jobs offering a living wage and a hiring preference to citizens. Perhaps you also overlooked my remarks in response to one of your posts in which I characterized Navarrette's proposals re: the 5 year tenure in the U.S. as not unreasonable if couple with his other offerings. I also offered a compromise on English language that would guarantee that no one would be prosecuted for speaking or studying another language with the caveat that employers would be allowed to enforce work rules related to language on the job. Thre are probably others that escape me at the moment><BR/><BR/>Your turn.ultimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13624967903736347171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-67106190545593492702008-08-25T19:17:00.000-05:002008-08-25T19:17:00.000-05:00Dianne,I like Biden´s mom.Anyone with a mom like t...Dianne,<BR/>I like Biden´s mom.<BR/>Anyone with a mom like that has to have something special in his heart!!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-88556759831726007032008-08-25T19:16:00.000-05:002008-08-25T19:16:00.000-05:00Liquid, For McCain, should I google the Keating 5,...Liquid, <BR/>For McCain, should I google the Keating 5, the Savings and Loan Scandals, his Anger Management problems, his infidelity scandals, his 100 more years in Iraq? <BR/><BR/>Comparitively, Biden is an Altar Boy!!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.com