tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post7238622353923931066..comments2024-01-04T07:05:27.381-06:00Comments on Immigration Talk with a Mexican American: Defunct Minuteman Groups Are Crying for Attention!Deehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-81628484197568706992009-02-23T13:59:00.000-06:002009-02-23T13:59:00.000-06:00Shawna is a fraud, thief, con and liar.http://www....Shawna is a fraud, thief, con and liar.<BR/><BR/>http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20090222/NEWS01/702229930/0/FRONTPAGE<BR/><BR/>also:<BR/><BR/>http://immigrationclearinghouse.org/?p=792Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04044638406978845648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-15821042565866752592009-01-16T15:37:00.000-06:002009-01-16T15:37:00.000-06:00http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20090116/NEWS01/9...http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20090116/NEWS01/901169963&news01ad=1#Minutemen.group.leader.reports.being.shotpcorn54https://www.blogger.com/profile/12190183888863273498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-74645275593790717092009-01-13T04:44:00.000-06:002009-01-13T04:44:00.000-06:00Shawna reappeared and once again, raises more ques...Shawna reappeared and once again, raises more questions than are answered.<BR/><BR/>http://immigrationclearinghouse.org/2009/01/13/shawna-forde-documents-made-available/<BR/><BR/>Check the time stamps on the documents. And if you listened to her "interview" on Blogtalkradio, you'll see what I meanpcorn54https://www.blogger.com/profile/12190183888863273498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-86394781617415957362009-01-11T17:58:00.000-06:002009-01-11T17:58:00.000-06:00Az,You are right. Alipac/William Gheen are disavow...Az,<BR/>You are right. <BR/>Alipac/William Gheen are disavowing Forde.<BR/><BR/>I find this all very, very interesting (and telling) !Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-74880605077879801432009-01-10T03:17:00.000-06:002009-01-10T03:17:00.000-06:00Now, this is funny:From ALIPAC http://www.alipac.u...Now, this is funny:<BR/>From ALIPAC <A HREF="http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-142143.html" REL="nofollow">http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-142143.html</A><BR/><BR/><I>Allied leaders and activists,<BR/><BR/>This e-mail is to notify you that ALIPAC has decided to put a hold on the Shawna Forde story and we will not be distributing it to our network or placing it on our homepage at this time.<BR/><BR/>There are many highly unusual aspects to this report and we want more information from official police sources before notifying the public.<BR/><BR/>While we take any threats or harm to any leader in this movement very seriously, the following concerns are why we are holding the story at this time.<BR/><BR/>1. The photos provided by Shawna Forde showing supposed bruises look like greasy makeup to many of our activists and they feel she is wearing other cosmetics on her skin and lips in the photos. Shawna is reported to be a cosmetologist.<BR/><BR/>2. The small scratches she reports via photos on her arms and neck look far to light for any knife attack, much less the work of MS-13.<BR/><BR/>3. Why would Shawna be attacked, since most of the other groups and leaders in our movement have never heard of her?<BR/><BR/>4. Jim Gilchrist is quickly sticking his face into this story and Shawna is part of Jim Gilchrist's Minuteman Project, which is an immediate credibility dive for those of us familiar with his antics.<BR/><BR/>5. Why would MS-13 switch from brutal murder and decapitations to bruises and light scratches that look like they were made with a paper clip?<BR/><BR/>6. Why did Shawna contact the newspaper asking for a story and then tell the reporter she would conduct a longer interview with police next week, when physical evidence has gone cold and the scratches and bruises are healed?<BR/><BR/>7. We want to know more about the reports from SoCal activists, about a story floated in the Summer of 2008, that Shawna's daughter had been kidnapped by gangs and the story turned out to be false.<BR/><BR/>It is true that her soon to be ex-husband was shot a few days before in his own house several blocks away. They are going through a divorce.<BR/><BR/>If this story is real, then we want to do all we can to warn people and seek full justice under the law.<BR/><BR/>If this story is a hoax and some sort of attention grab, then it could prove highly embarrassing to our movement and cause.<BR/><BR/>We are not running with the story, until more conclusive evidence is provided. Doubts are being expressed and analysis conducted both at ALIPAC and Free Republic. Here are the links of the collected information for you to review and decide on your own, if you want to run with this story or not.<BR/><BR/>I've already heard from several of you confidentially and if any of you would like to share any opinions or information in confidence about this woman or incident, please email me.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Kind Regards,<BR/><BR/><BR/>William Gheen<BR/>President, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC)<BR/>Director, National Illegal Immigration Boycott Coalition (NIIBC) </I>.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04308481390438662506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-19506469328303296142009-01-08T20:56:00.000-06:002009-01-08T20:56:00.000-06:00Yep, removed and I imagine no police report was ma...Yep, removed and I imagine no police report was made yesterday either.pcorn54https://www.blogger.com/profile/12190183888863273498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-6205262460090495862009-01-08T02:11:00.000-06:002009-01-08T02:11:00.000-06:00Wow, even the mention of the attack was removed fr...Wow, even the mention of the attack was removed from the site..... <BR/>Interesting......https://www.blogger.com/profile/04308481390438662506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-23150896675285525842009-01-08T02:08:00.000-06:002009-01-08T02:08:00.000-06:00Pcorn,I would, but I have no idea what blog is you...Pcorn,<BR/>I would, but I have no idea what blog is yours..... sorry....<BR/><BR/>Dee,<BR/>I'm not trying to be tough, just 'fair'. I want proof....<BR/>In these days you unfortunately <I>cannot</I> cannot take people for their word, or even trust low res pictures as 'proof'. I wish you could, but that seems impossible. <BR/>I want to know what the hospital, full of experts on injuries and rape, had to say about her visit. <BR/><BR/>But you never know, she may have actually been raped and beaten....<BR/>And publicizing it makes her worse than a liar in my opinion.......https://www.blogger.com/profile/04308481390438662506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-53145164065932361792009-01-07T23:31:00.000-06:002009-01-07T23:31:00.000-06:00Your vicious slander and lies are being forwarded ...Your vicious slander and lies are being forwarded all across the U.S. as we speak. Expect a lawsuit. You are truly a person without a soul Dee.Intrepidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02279672177893155057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-41700028358856509272009-01-07T21:59:00.000-06:002009-01-07T21:59:00.000-06:00Sorry about that Dee. Feel free to edit if you wan...Sorry about that Dee. Feel free to edit if you want.<BR/><BR/>Stayed tuned! More breaking news coming in about an hour.<BR/><BR/>And Jim Gilchrist seems to be ass deep in this mess.pcorn54https://www.blogger.com/profile/12190183888863273498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-39308098684179294422009-01-07T15:02:00.000-06:002009-01-07T15:02:00.000-06:00Porter, Congratulations on being the website she l...Porter, <BR/>Congratulations on being the website she linked to when explaining why she took down the pictures from her site!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-48102839781117754242009-01-07T14:59:00.000-06:002009-01-07T14:59:00.000-06:00Porter,I like your style but I ask that you refrai...Porter,<BR/>I like your style but I ask that you refrain from using the Bxxxx word in comments here. Thank you!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-21580386113103641082009-01-07T09:07:00.000-06:002009-01-07T09:07:00.000-06:00Arizonan, Post that comment over on my site if you...Arizonan, Post that comment over on my site if you would.<BR/><BR/>Seems like the bitch is consider suing me, although I doubt if she has standing in a Mexican District Court.<BR/><BR/>http://minutemenamericandefense.us/BrutalAttack.html<BR/><BR/>I don't know if she is offended by the generic term "publicity whore" or me breaking the story or what. <BR/><BR/>I'm trembling!<BR/><BR/>Is this where I set up a "donations" page for my legal defense fund? Or does that come later? <BR/><BR/>She was on a silly little internet radio show last night. I listened to a few minutes of it on my cell but lost the signal out in west Texas. What I heard begged more questions than they answered.<BR/><BR/>What caught my ear was her explanation why she wsn't going to make a statement until today.<BR/><BR/>"The Detective was going on vacation and would take the statement when he returned" <BR/><BR/>Yeah, right! Even the most incompetent PD in the country would not let the trail get cold by waiting for one of eight detectives to return from vacation!pcorn54https://www.blogger.com/profile/12190183888863273498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-83737509722714423432009-01-06T15:12:00.000-06:002009-01-06T15:12:00.000-06:00Az,You are tough! Great assessment!Az,<BR/>You are tough! Great assessment!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-53180805465395793092009-01-06T02:07:00.000-06:002009-01-06T02:07:00.000-06:00Besides, screw the police report:Release the medic...Besides, screw the police report:<BR/><B>Release the medical report.....</B>.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04308481390438662506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-28530693933845960622009-01-06T02:04:00.000-06:002009-01-06T02:04:00.000-06:00Oh, that's rich.....Couldn't stand up for the trut...Oh, that's rich.....<BR/>Couldn't stand up for the truth I guess, had to collapse under pressure.<BR/><BR/>If I may perform rebuttal, point for point:<BR/><BR/>1. Of course you're:<BR/>A: Not going to release Hi-res photos- it would draw more speculation<BR/>B: Not an expert on bruising, but those who are (or medics like me) pointed out inconsistencies in the photos, you folded.<BR/><BR/>2. Um, you guys <I>implied</I> MS13 was involved, so I wonder why some would think that....<BR/>I like the shifting of sympothy there <I>'The small cuts (and misaligned bruises)<BR/>don’t make sense; but what about rape does?'</I><BR/>Classic shifting of viewpoint...<BR/><BR/>3. What operation in Phoenix? Do you mean Operation: Sit-on-ass-in-front-of-building-complaining?<BR/>She made many movies, but releasing them all at once? In 'Theaters' no doubt....<BR/><BR/>4. That's just funny. Maybe because some in the movement hate liars and gloryhounds- hence the splitting of the movement in the first place.....<BR/><BR/>5. And yet they have a <I>very</I> consistent MO. MS13 usually doesn't let people live. They wouldn't go thru trouble to "scare" someone. If they did have a problem with her, she would be dead, guaranteed. <BR/><BR/>6. Then it must not be that serious if the head detective went on vacation.....<BR/>And BS, they would have done a sketch right away, not weeks later when her memory has had time to 'sort facts out'.<BR/><BR/>7. Again, someone there implied it, it became the gospel. I thought you guys would have figured out your members by now.<BR/><BR/>Sorry if I have my doubts....https://www.blogger.com/profile/04308481390438662506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-18534452789784505602009-01-05T22:31:00.000-06:002009-01-05T22:31:00.000-06:00Dave,You are right. She took down her pictures and...Dave,<BR/>You are right. She took down her pictures and here is what she posted instead.<BR/><BR/>Response: to the allegations from a few other groups.<BR/><BR/>1. I have high resolution photos; but I am not an expert on the subject of bruising. I do believe anything digital could <BR/>be faked; I.D., birth certificate, green card, etc.<BR/>2. No one said MS13 was responsible; for all I know it could be some local’s trying to imitate them. At the time they <BR/>found her naked on the kitchen floor; the police took their own photos of the circle with a 13 in the middle. The small cuts <BR/>don’t make sense; but what about rape does?<BR/>3. I met her in Yakima Washington in 2006 where I started a chapter of MCDC. She has been very active and in the <BR/>public eye. Chris Simcox of MCDC was going to make her the State Director; but she rescinded the offer to avoid internal <BR/>conflict in MCDC. I was with her in 2007 at Operation Allied Minutemen, Phoenix AZ, Three Points AZ, Deming NM, etc. <BR/>She has done several documentaries; with reporters from Germany, Australia, France, and local as well; check the facts. <BR/>The movies will be released in theaters this year.<BR/>4. When are the people in this movement going to stop shooting their wounded and fight the true enemies of <BR/>America?<BR/>5. If MS13 has such a strict code they follow; as to always do everything exactly the same. That would make them <BR/>very stupid and easy to identify.<BR/>6. The Detective on the case is on vacation and will not be back until wed 01/07/2009. This is when she was told to <BR/>make a statement and they will do a police sketch at that time. She is trying to preserve evidence the local police are <BR/>letting go cold.<BR/>7. Shawna Forde told no one that her child was kidnapped by gangs. Her daughter did run away from home and was <BR/>finally found after she escaped from a father and son holding her in Seattle. My wife was at her home in Everett the week <BR/>they were looking for her daughter.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-59551819645328599442009-01-05T19:34:00.000-06:002009-01-05T19:34:00.000-06:00Looks like she just pulled her own pictures from t...Looks like she just pulled her own pictures from the minutemen website! How pathetic.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15352698493874880134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-82913278627711484252009-01-05T17:02:00.000-06:002009-01-05T17:02:00.000-06:00Vdare just came out with an article titled Bloody ...Vdare just came out with an article titled Bloody Doings in Everett, Washington. <BR/>It looks like they are siding with Shawna yet, at the same time they are saying that "Things are looking interesting in Everett, WA."Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-48950271802461313262009-01-05T16:00:00.000-06:002009-01-05T16:00:00.000-06:00Guess What!!Jim Gilchrist just pulled this article...Guess What!!<BR/>Jim Gilchrist just pulled this article from his website.<BR/><BR/>Hmmmmm..........<BR/><BR/>Jim, If you are reading this, you are free to post your response.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-62297358837145480412009-01-05T15:52:00.000-06:002009-01-05T15:52:00.000-06:00Az, Good eye!What got me was her brazen pose on he...Az, <BR/>Good eye!<BR/>What got me was her brazen pose on her bed, half naked, displaying her dark make up just above her who who. I could NOT believe that pix. This is a slap in the face to women who have actually been assaulted! Shame on her!<BR/><BR/>I am embarrassed for the ANTI side. The worst part is those on the extremist fringe are using this as a rallying cry to start their "revolution." Sad!!<BR/><BR/>The Arizonian said... <BR/>Makeup.....<BR/><BR/>The shot of her right thigh shows "bruising". However, you can clearly see her, this is embarrassing, stretch marks.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-77608914084069473112009-01-05T15:48:00.000-06:002009-01-05T15:48:00.000-06:00Porter, I do give you total credit for Breaking t...Porter, <BR/>I do give you total credit for Breaking the Story, especially in the Pro Blogosphere!!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-3342417962157414082009-01-05T15:22:00.000-06:002009-01-05T15:22:00.000-06:00Not that I ever expected credit for breaking this ...Not that I ever expected credit for breaking this in the pro-sphere or bringing my suspicions to the public, but Willy G could at least give credit where credit is due!<BR/><BR/>http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=142143pcorn54https://www.blogger.com/profile/12190183888863273498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-42724463423532049462009-01-05T14:55:00.000-06:002009-01-05T14:55:00.000-06:00Makeup.....The shot of her right thigh shows "brui...Makeup.....<BR/><BR/>The shot of her right thigh shows "bruising". However, you can clearly see her, this is embarrassing, <I>stretch marks</I>.<BR/><BR/>Also, one pic shows her with a black eye, but no redness(small busted veins) of the eye, as one would expect to see when hit hard enough to cause that much "bruising" under her eye: <A HREF="http://images.google.com/images?rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS308&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=black%20eye&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi" REL="nofollow">http://images.google.com/images?rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS308&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=black%20eye&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi</A>.<BR/>Also, the cuts and bruises on one arm don't really match up, and no explanation was given for the cuts in the first place.<BR/><BR/>Interestingly, form the SPLC:<BR/><A HREF="http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=1522" REL="nofollow">http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=1522</A><BR/><I>Forde has made two failed forays into local politics. In 2006, she started a MAD spin-off group to gather signatures in an unsuccessful bid for a ballot initiative that would cut off any state aid to undocumented immigrants. Then, in the fall of 2007, she ran for Everett City Council on an anti-immigration platform. She received nearly 5,900 votes but lost.<BR/><BR/>Her candidacy was tarnished by a well-publicized August 2007 shoplifting conviction for stealing $3.18 worth of chocolate milk from a grocery store. Forde claimed she walked into an adjacent Starbucks to meet a friend and simply forgot about paying. She nonetheless pleaded guilty, claiming she could not attend the trial while filming along the Mexican border. "The only reason I settled is because I'm shooting a documentary for my country," Forde told reporters. "I don't care [about the charges]. I am way too busy nationally to worry about this."</I>.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04308481390438662506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-76524364097531103932009-01-05T12:15:00.000-06:002009-01-05T12:15:00.000-06:00Here's the Free Republic url. comment 33.Here's the Free Republic <A HREF="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2158101/posts" REL="nofollow">url</A>. <BR/><BR/>comment 33.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.com