tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post8141091625893514594..comments2024-01-04T07:05:27.381-06:00Comments on Immigration Talk with a Mexican American: NN 2010 Panel Discussion: Immigration Reform's Strange BedfellowsDeehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-38329184186868757792010-07-25T11:07:56.923-05:002010-07-25T11:07:56.923-05:00Taking the discussion of immigration reform out of...Taking the discussion of immigration reform out of the larger context of what is best for America is unfortunate. Apparently there was no discussion of what effect CIR (amnesty) would have on future border violations, population growth, increased energy and natural resource demands, pollution,crime and corruption. No one stood up and said, "Hey,this can't go on forever without adversely affecting our standard of living and quality of life. What level of population is the tipping point that puts America on the downward slope where our children and grandchildren will have a lesser quality of life than we have enjoyed. In other words, the panels seemed to be unable to take the long view and examine where all of this will ultimately lead.ultimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13624967903736347171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-80389835767858609732010-07-25T11:02:10.646-05:002010-07-25T11:02:10.646-05:00It is rather clear that Venegas has a narrow inter...It is rather clear that Venegas has a narrow interest in keeping local law enforcement out of the immigration business rather than the broader interest in what is good for the nation as a whole.<br /><br />The panel discussions were self-serving and of little import because the panels did not have balanced representation from both the pros and the cons. The panelists were just preaching to the choir and not really coming to grips with the chasm between the pro-America movement and the pro-illegal movement.ultimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13624967903736347171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-55966893424749790202010-07-25T10:56:50.573-05:002010-07-25T10:56:50.573-05:00Venegas, like everyone else,has an ax to grind. H...Venegas, like everyone else,has an ax to grind. He focuses on the optimum deployiment of police resources. That position is understandable since his performance was probably evaluated based on the crime and apprehension rates in Sacramento. He would not be so dependent on info from the ethnic communities if those communities were limited to legal residents and citizens. In other words, the fewer illegals present, the less the reason for ethnics to be reluctant to report crimes and cooperate with the police. <br /><br />I think most people would not expect the police to go out of their way to apprehend illegals. There expectation even under the Arizona law would be that if, in the normal course of the performance of their duties, the police encounter people who cannot prove their bona fides,they simply refer them to ICE or the nearest detention facility. If there are enough such facilities, this should not take an inordinate amount of police time. The delivery of the illegals to detention facilities could even be accomplish by police auxiliaries or volunteer drivers. The point is there are some things the police could do through their own initiative to minimize the impact of their immigration responsibilities on their primary mission. Admittedly,the feds should have the primary role but in the absence of adequate numbers of ICE agents, there is no alternative but to depend on the support of local authorities.ultimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13624967903736347171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-40680548957243575342010-07-25T10:42:33.884-05:002010-07-25T10:42:33.884-05:00I think most who are interested in this subject ar...I think most who are interested in this subject are well-informed about sb 1070 and support it as necessary in the absence of federal enforcement of immigration laws. Some speak of the "enforcement only" approach of the federal government but from another perspective it is clear that the laws are not being enforced. The best evidence of this is the 12 million illegals present in the U.S. If the law was being enforced, they would not be here. Therefore any argument about "enforcement only" has no validity.ultimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13624967903736347171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-88983365139909076382010-07-24T03:37:38.743-05:002010-07-24T03:37:38.743-05:00I don't find the guests that strange of bedfel...I don't find the guests that strange of bedfellows.<br /><br />I believe many in the "Tea Party" movement agree that there needs to be some change, after all their biggest argument is that so many are coming here outside of the tax system, and becoming "ghosts" within our economy and public support system.<br /><br />They may disagree with the details though, I admit that. <br /><br />The racists aside (who are completely biased and illogical) most people are willing and striving for some solution and parity. <br /><br />There is also a HUGE problem with Mexico's government not providing the documents that WE require for a visa, the corruption and racism in Mexico against the 'native' population (ever notice the physical attributes of their leaders/media personalities?)etc......<br /><br />I have a saying:<br />"The Mexicans are traveling, working and fighting for a better life; unfortunately, they are going north instead of their capitol.".https://www.blogger.com/profile/04308481390438662506noreply@blogger.com