tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post8197184419071767338..comments2024-01-04T07:05:27.381-06:00Comments on Immigration Talk with a Mexican American: Racist Arizona Passes Law to BAN Cesar Chavez and Other Ethnic Studies!Deehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-85980057184993835552010-05-14T23:41:26.485-05:002010-05-14T23:41:26.485-05:00Hi Ultima: hyperbole. - sure, But when racial prof...Hi Ultima: hyperbole. - sure, But when racial profiling is legal and citizens are arrested not because they have committed a crime but because they don't answer questions fast enough, the jump really isn't that far. <br /><br />also you wonder why everyone is being so unreasonable. It is because the people responsible for these laws ALREADY went too far. <br /><br />It's like when you are having a heated argument and then the other person says or does something so horrific and upsetting. After that you can't even hear their voice anymore because they went too far. <br /><br />That is what the people responsible for these laws did they went too far. It's a disgrace and now Arizona has lost a huge amount of credibility in the eyes of the entire nation.Not anymore https://www.blogger.com/profile/13587726107585895457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-56286324619102317342010-05-14T18:58:51.037-05:002010-05-14T18:58:51.037-05:00"Where does it stop? I wanted to say pretty s..."Where does it stop? I wanted to say pretty soon they will make it illegal to have brown skin... but oops they already did that. Its very sad, this whole situation is making me physically sick."<br /><br />This sound like hyperbole to me. Brown skinned people are just as handsome and beautiful as anyone else and they are accepted or rejected on the same terms -- law abiding, loyal, able to think beyond their own ethnicity to what is in the national interest, the national sovereignty, and the national character. That's fairly simple when think about. When you put those things first, people will notice and you will have nothing to worry or get physically sick about. I think that is the answer to your question: "When will it stop?"<br /><br />How do you think your fellow citizens feel about those who give precedence to the interests of foreign nationals rather than the national interest? Is it unreasonable to question your loyalty to the United States and its ideals and welfare?ultimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13624967903736347171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-71758648127330980142010-05-14T18:50:07.285-05:002010-05-14T18:50:07.285-05:00Why is everyone so bent on being unreasonable abou...Why is everyone so bent on being unreasonable about this?ultimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13624967903736347171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-90605878475927801742010-05-14T18:50:07.286-05:002010-05-14T18:50:07.286-05:00There may be some things that are not suitable for...There may be some things that are not suitable for young children. I think the AZ law preamble is exactly right. Treat each of them as individual and steer clear of divisive topics. After all it is the worth of the individual that we should be interested in not dividing us up by ethnicity. We will never escape our checkered past if ethnic study proponents continue to emphasize our differences rather than the ideals that should bind us together. Ethnic studies are an insidious influence in our society. We have heard about the need of children to feel good about themselves; that also applies to entire nations and societies. Ethnic stludies undermine that.ultimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13624967903736347171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-40122620894832818442010-05-14T18:44:24.207-05:002010-05-14T18:44:24.207-05:00Dee wrote, "what ALL of us were taught in gra...Dee wrote, "what ALL of us were taught in grades K - 12." I suspect that few have read the current text books to determine whether the treatment of the overall civil rights movement has been given fair treatment and print in relation not to that given to white leaders but in proportion to their contributions to the settlement and development of this continent.<br /><br />Some want to exacerbate the tensions between Mexican Americans who have the Atzlanista complex and other Americans who reflect on history and see that conquered territories have almost always be retained by the conqueror. Look at the Eastern Half of Poland which now is a part of Russia. We could of course all return to our origins leaving only pure blood Native Americans to populate the continent. Few of us are pure blooded anything after the intermarriage of our ancestors. Ethnic studies is a devisive concept and that is easily proved by the writings of those who teach there.<br /><br />If one doesn't care about that devisiveness or subscribe to the Truxillo viewpoint, then I can understand why one might support these courses. History taught in schools has rarely been lilywhite in modern times. Hasn't anyone heard of the Dredd Scott case?ultimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13624967903736347171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-42507219405946119252010-05-14T18:33:23.111-05:002010-05-14T18:33:23.111-05:00Dee wrote, "This racism will not stop until A...Dee wrote, "This racism will not stop until ALL Latinos register and Vote these racists out of office. Until that time, the racist extremists will continue to run the states."<br /><br />No, it will continue. The color of the extremists will just be different but they will still be racist extremist and the new racist extremists will continue to run the states and the U.S. There is enough racist rhetoric here to prove that assertion.ultimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13624967903736347171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-13690897490570524172010-05-14T16:41:08.391-05:002010-05-14T16:41:08.391-05:00What some people are missing is the BANNED ethnic ...What some people are missing is the BANNED ethnic studies courses are elective classed for Senior and Middle schools. They are NOT mandatory curriculum. Additionally, as the Professor said, the students in the class are not all one ethnicity. Anyone can take these courses. <br /><br />Others mentioned that the content of the courses are included in US History courses. From my and my children's studies, atrocities such as the Trail of Tears, the Chinese Exclusion Act, the Bracero Program, are barely touched upon. Operation Wetback WAS NEVER MENTIONED. And, the subjects covered were whitewashed, with minimal discussion. <br /><br />The ethnic studies programs provides various perspectives and allows students to discuss these topics in depth and to learn from them. REMEMBER, WHAT WE DO NOT LEARN FROM HISTORY WE ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT!<br /><br />To your point AZ, last year, Texas has rewritten and BANNED some of these topics from students' standard curriculum. They even banned Cesar Chavez and Dolores Huerte!<br />That is wrong!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-61058299941256424622010-05-14T10:20:35.083-05:002010-05-14T10:20:35.083-05:00Maybe you misunderstood. The AZ bill is designed t...Maybe you misunderstood. The AZ bill is designed to intergrate the cirriculum. The Texas school board is re-writing the cirriculum all together. <br /><br />Our cirriculum has always taught about these people, or at least did when I went to school..https://www.blogger.com/profile/04308481390438662506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-22226848018478769212010-05-14T07:18:08.433-05:002010-05-14T07:18:08.433-05:00Two things are certain.
1. Whites have written and...Two things are certain.<br />1. Whites have written and controlled what we learn about history since the 60's, from what ultima said.<br />2. Whites are the majority so playing the race card is futile. When have the whites been discriminated and prejudiced by the established law? Should they be sent to the back of the line?<br />Does equality cover what we can teach our children?<br />Because I certainly will teach my kids, I dont want the same ignorant mistakes.missingxtensionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-83874004286518408372010-05-14T07:12:53.633-05:002010-05-14T07:12:53.633-05:00Two things are certain.
1. Whites have written the...Two things are certain.<br />1. Whites have written the history we are taught for sure since the 60's.<br />2.Whites are majority, so the racist card does is out of reach.<br />Poor whites are oppressed and discriminated against by the established rule of law.<br /><br /> MissingxtensionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-2620184560629879772010-05-14T02:18:29.142-05:002010-05-14T02:18:29.142-05:00We can all agree on two things.
1. History in Amer...We can all agree on two things.<br />1. History in America has been written by White people until recent history.<br />2. It is stupid to hear white people pull the racist card considering whites are no where near being a minority.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-37779119017123939972010-05-13T22:08:37.618-05:002010-05-13T22:08:37.618-05:00White washed = Northern European Flavored LIES abo...White washed = Northern European Flavored LIES about what they wanted history to be.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-62087436905693513212010-05-13T22:08:02.968-05:002010-05-13T22:08:02.968-05:00That is exactly my point AZ. Right Wing Conservati...That is exactly my point AZ. Right Wing Conservatives in AZ and in TX are whitewashing what is being taught in schools. You are right. It is NOT new. But it is wrong! Children should be taught the truth! Not a whitewashed version of History.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-22756595608411848112010-05-13T19:19:15.214-05:002010-05-13T19:19:15.214-05:00http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/01/10/texas-conserv...http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/01/10/texas-conservatives-closer-to-banning-cesar-chavez-from-school-textbooks/<br /><br />That is an article about THE TEXAS SCHOOL BOARD, and is nothing new. They have been whitewashing the entire curriculum. <br /><br />The even had Jefferson remove from the "Writers that influenced revolutionary change", most likely because the board are Christians and Jefferson's writings found Religion abhorrent..https://www.blogger.com/profile/04308481390438662506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-56465773713184585262010-05-13T18:43:59.056-05:002010-05-13T18:43:59.056-05:00Ultima,
Actually textbooks EXCLUDE Chavez and Dolo...Ultima,<br />Actually textbooks EXCLUDE Chavez and Dolores Huerte from the core curriculum. <br /><br />YOU JUST LOST YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT!!<br /><br /><br /><br />http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/01/10/texas-conservatives-closer-to-banning-cesar-chavez-from-school-textbooks/Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-8335782342290859582010-05-13T18:39:33.562-05:002010-05-13T18:39:33.562-05:00Ultima,
You ask why there are no WHITE ETHNIC STUD...Ultima,<br />You ask why there are no WHITE ETHNIC STUDIES? Because it is the CORE CURRICULUM.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-33475465660623732882010-05-13T18:17:11.114-05:002010-05-13T18:17:11.114-05:00WATCH THE VIDEO! PROFESSOR DYSON WIPES THE FLOOR W...WATCH THE VIDEO! PROFESSOR DYSON WIPES THE FLOOR WITH HORNE AND HIS FUTILE, RACIST ARGUMENT!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-36239859528260917142010-05-13T18:16:15.180-05:002010-05-13T18:16:15.180-05:00Ultima,
Ethnic Studies are the OPPOSITE of racist....Ultima,<br />Ethnic Studies are the OPPOSITE of racist. It is important we teach our children the truth about our history. These classes are open to ALL students. All students should be taught the truth, not just what we want them to hear. This includes: Manifest Destiny, Slavery, The Trail of Tears, the Chinese Exclusion Act/the origin of Immigration Laws, the Bracero Program, Operation Wetback, Cesar Chavez, Dolores Huerta - Peaceful Boycotts vs exploiting employers. Our students need to taught the truth otherwise we are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past.<br /><br />As Glenn says, it is very apparent that AZ classes have always been racially and ethnically biased. That is one reason arpaio and his masked goons have been able to Racially Profile in Maricopa County for so long.<br /><br />WE NEED ALL HUMANITARIANS AND PEOPLE OF COLOR TO REGISTER TO VOTE IN ARIZONA AND VOTE THESE ZEALOTS OUT OF OFFICE!!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-66273720575750089042010-05-13T17:51:02.691-05:002010-05-13T17:51:02.691-05:00American History classes in Arizona and elsewhere ...American History classes in Arizona and elsewhere were racially and ethnically biased long be fore they started teaching Chicano/a Studies there.Glen Petersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04791010608165098468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-46715870774375817412010-05-13T17:06:15.473-05:002010-05-13T17:06:15.473-05:00By the Way, Wasn't Professor Michael Eric Dyso...By the Way, Wasn't Professor Michael Eric Dyson absolutely BRILLIANT in this debate with the racist Horne? Horne was absolutely obliterated!!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-53072704136274659202010-05-13T17:04:04.056-05:002010-05-13T17:04:04.056-05:00PV Girl,
One more thing. I agree with Prayer too! ...PV Girl,<br />One more thing. I agree with Prayer too! Pray and VOTE!!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-27414414937312832382010-05-13T17:03:03.439-05:002010-05-13T17:03:03.439-05:00Jools,
That is absolutely silly. Ethnic study prog...Jools,<br />That is absolutely silly. Ethnic study programs DO NOT promote hatred at all. They teach the truth. <br /><br />Someone asked about White studies? That is the regular, every day curriculum. White, Northern European Studies..what ALL of us were taught in grades K - 12. <br /><br />Why are you and the zealots in AZ so afraid of teaching the truth? The Trail of Tears? The Chinese Exclusion Act? How Immigration started out as exclusionary? How Cesar Chavez and Dolores Huerte utilized peaceful Boycotting to resolve farm worker exploitation.<br /><br />Students NEED to be taught the TRUTH! These classes are open to ALL Students!Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-86141319206710890432010-05-13T16:55:04.173-05:002010-05-13T16:55:04.173-05:00JV Girl,
This racism will not stop until ALL Latin...JV Girl,<br />This racism will not stop until ALL Latinos register and Vote these racists out of office. Until that time, the racist extremists will continue to run the states. <br /><br />We need our young people informed and ready to register. <br /><br />We ALL need to discuss this every day...every day... every day! We cannot stop talking about this. <br /><br />Otherwise these zealots will destroy our country and ALL Latinos will live in continued fear of racial profiling attacks.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09583438645860375661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-41516150407534366802010-05-13T16:19:58.801-05:002010-05-13T16:19:58.801-05:00Ethnic studies that promote hatred of white people...Ethnic studies that promote hatred of white people is racist.<br /><br />You know that's what was happening.<br /><br />You're as racist as anybody I read.<br /><br />Over and out, forever.I Travel for JOOLShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07348834982890831188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548695401579410439.post-27382990781177585462010-05-13T14:33:20.589-05:002010-05-13T14:33:20.589-05:00Dee it is just unbelievable. Where does it stop? I...Dee it is just unbelievable. Where does it stop? I wanted to say pretty soon they will make it illegal to have brown skin... but oops they already did that. Its very sad, this whole situation is making me physically sick. I must pray.Not anymore https://www.blogger.com/profile/13587726107585895457noreply@blogger.com