Since 2002, more than 37,000 aliens and non citizens who served on active duty have been provided expedited naturalization.As I have previously reported, in Iraq, according to the Washington Post, Hispanics have a death risk about 20 percent higher than non-Hispanics.
According to the Pew Hispanic Center, while Latinos make up 9.5 percent of the actively enlisted forces, they are over-represented in the categories that get the most dangerous assignments -- infantry, gun crews and seamanship -- and make up over 17.5 percent of the front lines.
According to the Pew Hispanic Center, while Latinos make up 9.5 percent of the actively enlisted forces, they are over-represented in the categories that get the most dangerous assignments -- infantry, gun crews and seamanship -- and make up over 17.5 percent of the front lines.
The Marines came from all over - Kazakhstan, Jamaica, Guatemala, Russia, Brazil, Mexico, El Salvador, Indonesia, the Philippines - but Monday evening threaded them together with one common theme. Their home is now officially the United States, a country they've defended overseas since the war on terror began. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services officials have naturalized more than 37,250 military members since Sept. 11, 2003, but this was the first ceremony held on a military base. President Bush signed the Expedited Naturalization Executive Order in July 2002, enabling non-citizens on active duty to immediately file for citizenship. Military personnel would normally have to serve a year before qualifying for citizenship.
Expedited Naturalization of Aliens and Noncitizen Nationals Serving in An Active-Duty Status During the War on Terrorism
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 329 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1440) (the "Act"), and solely in order to provide expedited naturalization for aliens and noncitizen nationals serving in an active-duty status in the Armed Forces of the United States during the period of the war against terrorists of global reach, it is hereby ordered as follows:
For the purpose of determining qualification for the exception from the usual requirements for naturalization, I designate as a period in which the Armed Forces of the United States were engaged in armed conflict with a hostile foreign force the period beginning on September 11, 2001. Such period will be deemed to terminate on a date designated by future Executive Order. Those persons serving honorably in active-duty status in the Armed Forces of the United States, during the period beginning on September 11, 2001, and terminating on the date to be so designated, are eligible for naturalization in accordance with the statutory exception to the naturalization requirements, as provided in section 329 of the Act. Nothing contained in this order is intended to affect, nor does it affect, any other power, right, or obligation of the United States, its agencies, officers, employees, or any other person under Federal law or the law of nations.
GEORGE W. BUSH THE WHITE HOUSE, July 3, 2002.
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 329 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1440) (the "Act"), and solely in order to provide expedited naturalization for aliens and noncitizen nationals serving in an active-duty status in the Armed Forces of the United States during the period of the war against terrorists of global reach, it is hereby ordered as follows:
For the purpose of determining qualification for the exception from the usual requirements for naturalization, I designate as a period in which the Armed Forces of the United States were engaged in armed conflict with a hostile foreign force the period beginning on September 11, 2001. Such period will be deemed to terminate on a date designated by future Executive Order. Those persons serving honorably in active-duty status in the Armed Forces of the United States, during the period beginning on September 11, 2001, and terminating on the date to be so designated, are eligible for naturalization in accordance with the statutory exception to the naturalization requirements, as provided in section 329 of the Act. Nothing contained in this order is intended to affect, nor does it affect, any other power, right, or obligation of the United States, its agencies, officers, employees, or any other person under Federal law or the law of nations.
GEORGE W. BUSH THE WHITE HOUSE, July 3, 2002.
It goes to show that these green card holders understand what the United States of America stands for and they are willing to sacrifice their own lives for its protection.
ReplyDeleteI applaud there understanding and I congratulate them for there service. From one soldier to another, THANK YOU!!!
As for your leading lines, your blue ink, the only colors that matter in the military are the colors of the uniforms, not the color of their skin. As for MOS positions, one takes an ASVAB test to determine what MOS's are available, due to your score you are given choices of jobs. In this list you choose the top three you want, depending on availability you get the job that is open.
Now, as to why more Hispanics make up the front lines even though they have a smaller portion of enlisted, well that's what you get to decide, but I have given you how it is determined how all are placed into a position/job in service.
To help non military viewers understand your post liquid:
ReplyDeleteASVAB: Armed Service Vocational Aptitude Battery Test
MOS: Military Occupational Speciality
Regardless of WHAT you are attempting to imply, here is what the Pew Center said:
. As U.S. casualties in Iraq continue to mount, so does the worry in the country's Latino community that its children are dying in unusually high numbers and are being lured into dangerous service with targeted recruiting by the Armed Forces.
. more than 50 percent of the Hispanic population (almost 18 million people) lived in Texas and California, states that are historically large recruitment centers for the Armed Forces.
. According to 'The Army Times' newspaper, in 2001 Army Brigadier General Bernardo C. Negrete told a DOD audience, ''we've made significant improvement by going after Hispanics in a manner we've never done before''.
''We're giving our recruiters goals to meet in order to bring the Hispanic population in the Army on par with the general population in the country.''
. Another tactic suspected of targeting Hispanics is an executive order signed by U.S. President George W. Bush in July 2002, expediting naturalization for aliens and non-citizen nationals who serve in active-duty status during the administration's ''war on terrorism''.
The order, effective for all military personnel who enlisted after the terrorist attacks of Sep. 11, 2001, allows non-citizens to apply for citizenship immediately upon arrival at their first military base, rather than having to wait the usual three to four years.
. While two army recruiters in the Washington area denied using the expedited citizenship order as a selling point during recruitment pitches, both told IPS that they mention the ''benefit'' as one part of the recruitment package.
And what is it that I am attempting to imply, Dee. I gave how an MOS is chosen and what qualifies one for the MOS. You are reading into it further. i left it open for each to form their own opinions.
ReplyDeleteMy father, my husband and my only brother all saw front line duty in a war. My father was wounded and my brother ended up with PTSD. I had friends who died in Viet Nam. All American citizens. All risked their lives for this country and some lost them. War is hell and this Iraq war is no exception. That's just the way it is.
ReplyDeleteArizonian,
ReplyDeleteRhetoric? I linked a factual article. How is that rhetoric. Just facts.
The increase was by design, as was the executive order.
Dianne,
ReplyDeleteYou are right. War is hexx.
I have two nephews in Iraq now.
One is a career man on his third tour. His Dad was a career man too and served in Vietnam, as my brother did.
What is interesting about this article is how there is so much ANTI rhetoric about the illegal "aliens" yet more than37,000 of them served defending our nation.
Anyone who serves, especially on the front lines defending our country should be honored.
This an interesting discussion. With the EO in place why are there still thousands of illegals in the
ReplyDeletearmed forces? Maybe the recruiters should have spent more time explaining this non-trivial benefit.
It is interesting that I was initially chosen for topographical computing training, then teletype repairman, then career guidance. I traded the last one off for Munitions and ended up as an instructor in that school before I went off to aviation cadet training.
ReplyDeleteI believe that the EO should have required a 4 year enlistment even if citizenship was awarded earlier. Overlooked in all this is thae fact that the volunteer army is paid a lot better than it was during the days of the draft for the Korean and Viet Nam wars. For many, in spite of the risks, this is a good deal with better pay and benefits than some other civilian occupations, especially for those who are undereducated and who don't mind being called a"lifer".
It's not much fun being shot at or IUDed but there is a certain amount of highly valued camaraderie that has caused some, even if they had been greviously wounded, to volunteer to return to Iraq.
Citizenship should be highly valued and worth the sacrifice just as their predecessors in the other wars sacrificed to enable our independence from Great Britain, hold the Union together and protect it against facism.
ReplyDeleteDee seems tp be willing to look everywhere for a boogeyman, except among the illegals who have always had her approval and support.
No one that isn't in this country legally should be able to serve in our military and I think that only citizens should be allowed to join anyway.
ReplyDeleteIn reality, many recruits don't join the military because they have an undying dovotion to our country. Many join for the education, money and job training they can receive. Just the facts, folks!
Arizonian,
ReplyDeleteGood links.
My original article and survey were older and only Iraq. Yours is more recent and both Afghanistan and Iraq.
Yours only includes those from the US (as per state description).
It does corroborate the two hightest states - CA and TX.
My point in posting this is as I said earlier:
"What is interesting about this article is how there is so much ANTI rhetoric about the illegal "aliens" yet more than37,000 of them served defending our nation.
Anyone who serves, especially on the front lines defending our country should be HONORED."
Please note Pats comments. They attest to the attitude I am referencing.
I would like to know how you are coming up with 37,000 "Illegal" Aliens having served and been naturalized, when the article you link to states only that they were aliens, meaning GC or LPR status.
ReplyDeleteYour sun link isn't correct, so here is the link and date of August 17:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sbsun.com/ci_10241839
Again, please show where it states that any of these soldiers were "Illegal Aliens". Don't confound the difference between Legal and Illegal.
Liquid, Liquid, Liquid,
ReplyDeleteYou should go back to the original reference article.
http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_10284467
The Marines came from all over - Kazakhstan, Jamaica, Guatemala, Russia, Brazil, Mexico, El Salvador, Indonesia, the Philippines - but Monday evening threaded them together with one common theme. Their home is now officially the United States, a country they've defended overseas since the war on terror began. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services officials have naturalized more than 37,250 military members since Sept. 11, 2003, but this was the first ceremony held on a military base. President Bush signed the Expedited Naturalization Executive Order in July 2002, enabling non-citizens on active duty to immediately file for citizenship. Military personnel would normally have to serve a year before qualifying for citizenship.
scroll down to middle of page.
"U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services officials have naturalized more than 37,250 military members since Sept. 11, 2003, but this was the first ceremony held on a military base.
"They've already given an oath to defend this country," said USCIS spokesman Jorge Swank. "The government should make every effort to ensure we make these soldiers citizens."
President Bush signed the Expedited Naturalization Executive Order in July 2002, enabling non-citizens on active duty to immediately file for citizenship. Military personnel would normally have to serve a year before qualifying for citizenship."
Your link if fine too!
http://www.sbsun.com/ci_10241839
Again, please show where it states that any of these soldiers were "Illegal Aliens". Don't confound the difference between Legal and Illegal.
ReplyDeleteWhere in there does it say they are "ILLEGAL ALIENS"?????
ReplyDeleteWhile there is a statutory requirement that only a United States Citizen may become a commissioned officer, this is not true for enlistment. Certain non-citizens can enlist in the United States Armed Forces. To be eligible to enlist, a non-citizen must:
ReplyDelete(1) Entered the United States on a permanent residence visa or has an Alien Registration Receipt Card (INS Form 1-551/I-551 greencard or stamped I-94), and
(2) Established a bona fide residence, and
(3) Established a home of record in the United States.
The visa and/or "greencard" must have sufficient time remaining on it (expiration date) to be valid during the entire term on enlistment. While non-citizens may enlist in the U.S. Military, they are not allowed to reenlist (stay in beyond their first term of service), unless they first become U.S. Citizens. However, there are accelerated citizenship procedures for non-citizens on active duty.
Show us all where it states "ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT" anywhere in the above posts or post.
In fact, why don't you try your link, you will find it doesn't go to the article. That is why I linked to it for you.
ReplyDeleteGosh Liquid, You are losing it again. You ask for a reference and two minutes later, you ask for it again. Sheesh!!
ReplyDeleteI refer you back to the original link.
http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_10284467
"U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services officials have naturalized more than 37,250 military members since Sept. 11, 2003."
The ACT: "provides expedited naturalization for aliens and noncitizen nationals serving in an active-duty status in the Armed Forces of the United States during the period of the war against terrorists"
the link to the executive order:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/07/20020703-24.html
I will ask the same question as liquid did. Where does it say that illegal aliens have served in our military?
ReplyDeletePat,
ReplyDeleteRead the 1st line
"Since 2002, more than 37,000 aliens and non citizens who served on active duty have been provided expedited naturalization."
You can interpret the term "non citizen" any way you want to. I agree. NO HUMAN IS ILLEGAL.
Hey, maybe you ARE turning PRO! Congratulations!
Dee, yo are reaching into a black hole trying to SPIN a meaning here, you are the one who said they were "ILLEGAL ALIENS" at no point can an ILLEGAL ALIEN join our military, which I gave to you the MILITARY REQUIREMENTS to join. Your ignorance lately is mind blowing. Any question that has been asked of you, you have ran from, you are definitely like Obama, now I know why you would vote for such an IDIOT!!
ReplyDelete"aliens and non citizens" = non-citizens can enlist in the United States Armed Forces. To be eligible to enlist, a non-citizen must:
ReplyDelete(1) Entered the United States on a permanent residence visa or has an Alien Registration Receipt Card (INS Form 1-551/I-551 greencard or stamped I-94), and
(2) Established a bona fide residence, and
(3) Established a home of record in the United States.
The visa and/or "greencard" must have sufficient time remaining on it (expiration date) to be valid during the entire term on enlistment. While non-citizens may enlist in the U.S. Military, they are not allowed to reenlist (stay in beyond their first term of service), unless they first become U.S. Citizens. However, there are accelerated citizenship procedures for non-citizens on active duty.
So show us where it says that an "ILLEGAL ALIEN" can or is in the military as one of these 37,000 in question.
An alien simply means foreigner. That doesn't mean that the foreigner is here illegally.
ReplyDeleteHow times have I heard the pro's say "no human being is illegal"? Just what is the point of that statement? Any human can commit an illegal act and any human can be in a country illegally. The pros make the lamest statements. Not in this lifetime or the next will I ever turn my back on my country and become a "pro".
Liquid,
ReplyDeleteStop your name calling of the candidate! Your use of "idiot" is both disrespectful and off topic.
Liquid, I posted the links in the previous two articles I wrote about this subject.
ReplyDeleteGo back and check them out.
My blogs:
1. picture of Dad crying about this son.
2. same pix used in this blog.
The Dad was crying because his son was killed while defending our country.
ReplyDeleteYour statement is the problem Dee, "What is interesting about this article is how there is so much ANTI rhetoric about the illegal "aliens" yet more than37,000 of them served defending our nation.
ReplyDeleteAnyone who serves, especially on the front lines defending our country should be HONORED."
Where are the facts supporting that 37,000 Illegal Aliens were given naturalization from Bush, as per your statement??
All "Aliens" in the military deserve to be honored, nobody has said differently, however you are obfuscating what is being said to try to present your ignorant statement.
One case of an Illegal Immigrant, ILLEGALLY in the military is not 37,000 of them.
Even if it were true that all 37,000 of these recruits were illegal aliens (but it isn't) that is supposed to justify 20 million of them in our country? WTH?
ReplyDeleteI do honor anyone who has served in our military but that still doesn't change my mind that only citizens should be able to serve.
Liquid,
ReplyDeleteYou are right in that the 37,000 were aliens and non citizens. No one should be considered "illegal."
Arizonian,
ReplyDeleteWhat a NICE comment!!
The Arizonian said...
I have no regrets calling the soldiers friends, and fellow citizens.
dee, please explain your remark that "no one should be considered illegal" when I already explained it all to you in a prior post!
ReplyDeleteAs usual, you obfuscate the discussion. YOU were the one stating that the 37,000 were "Illegal Aliens", now you act as though we are the ones advocating the process??
ReplyDeleteYou have yet to respond in coherent sentences with answers to the question. Your statements are truly as you have stated in the other topic, Orwellian.
Is it at all possible that these minorities are just inherently better at these military roles than their counterparts? I feel odd just assuming that the leaders are putting these people in danger just because of their skin tone.
ReplyDeleteI have actually learned that there is no true advantage for any ethnicity as far as inherent performance in the military. In short, while more whites attain higher positions, there are far more of them in the military than any other race.
ReplyDelete