The murder rampage began a little before 2:00 am Thursday morning at the units of the Summer Lake Townhomes in Miramar Beach, Florida. Investigators said Baker left his townhouse, armed with a rifle, walked across the complex to the victims' unit's window, peaked inside, and opened fire.
After the shooting, witnesses saw Baker carrying a rifle though the pool area across the street to his home on the other side of the complex. Authorities say he locked himself inside and waited. When authorities arrived, they used a loudspeaker to talk with Baker, said Michele Nicholson with the Okaloosa County Sheriff's Office. Baker surrendered without further incident shortly after 6 a.m. His tennis shoes were discarded near the door of his home at Unit 25, where he was arrested.
Afterwards, neighbor Crystal Lynn said, "he did come up to me one time and asked me if I was ready for the revolution to begin and if I had any immigrants in my house to get them out."After the shooting, witnesses saw Baker carrying a rifle though the pool area across the street to his home on the other side of the complex. Authorities say he locked himself inside and waited. When authorities arrived, they used a loudspeaker to talk with Baker, said Michele Nicholson with the Okaloosa County Sheriff's Office. Baker surrendered without further incident shortly after 6 a.m. His tennis shoes were discarded near the door of his home at Unit 25, where he was arrested.
While many Republicans are already attempting to distance themselves from Baker proclaiming him a lone nutcase, on the Landover Baptist website, which some identify as a spoof Christian site, and others post legitimately as Christians, one poster, Jeb Thurmond, proclaimed: "Walton County Republican Headquarters volunteer Dannie R Baker is being persecuted for pre-emptively defending America against potential illegal immigrants."
Some Republican, Christian Conservative and ANTI Immigration Reform websites are predicting an on-coming Revolution against the Obama Administration and their supporters.
Baker was a pitiful man, looking for love. On one "looking for love" website, this 60 year old man advertised for a woman between 18 - 29. He said, "I'm looking for a woman to be my bride and to have my children and to enjoy my lifestyle on the beach in Florida, USA!!! I want a Christian who wants to be a ministers wife." It is a good thing no one answered.
Let's hope Baker is charged, to the fullest extent of the law, for the HATE Crimes he so callously committed.
BREAKING NEWS: Baker had his first appearance before a judge Friday morning (today). He was denied bond on two open counts of murder and three counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. A bond of $50,000 was set on a charge of shooting a missile into an occupied dwelling, although Baker was to stay in jail.
Update: Bilbao told his brother that the youths, who were in Florida as part of an educational exchange program, were sitting around a kitchen table talking and cooking when they were surprised by a blast and the sound of breaking glass. “My brother thought something had exploded in the oven, and never imagined it was a gunshot until about the third shot when he was hit in the arm,” Mario Bilbao told a Chilean radio station. “My brother threw himself on the floor and later tried to help one of his friends, but regrettably, he told me, it was too late. It’s going to be very difficult for him to get over this,” he said.
Update 2: The sheriff's office doesn't have a motive, but they did confirm that citizens had filed reports with them in August 2008 claiming Baker had circulated e-mails that threatened national political candidates.
24 comments:
Their legal status is not important. Murder is murder.
Wow! Wonder if he is also an "ALIPAC Titan"?
Anon,
I agree. Their legal status is not important. However, what is important is many ANTI Immigration Reform zealots have demonized all those they term "illegal immigrants." and no one can identify an "illegal alien" by just looking at them. Therefore, many on their side view all brown people as potentially being "illegals." This is RACIAL PROFILING. Many on the PRO Immigration Reform side have identified this issue for some time.
So what happens is, the violent within the ANTI ranks, assuming all brown people are "illegals" attack and kill anyone they think is an illegal. Therefore, ALL Latinos and anyone who is Brown are subject to their violence.
This is what happened to these two innocent children who were murdered. This is what happened to Marcelo Lucero, another legal immigrant from Ecuador. This is what happened to Jose Sucuzhanay.
It is important we bring plenty of attention to these Hate Crimes so the perpetrators are punished to the fullest extent of the law and so that murders like this never happen again.
That is messed up to hate a group to the point of killing members of the group. Me thinks that the killer has serious David Berkowitz type issues.
Well anon. All the anti immigrant sentiment and hate being spread by groups. All the manufactured "statistics" make ignorant people do stupid things.
This and other hate crimes like it are a result of the efforts of groups like ALIPAC, VDARE and others to spread their malicious lies to the American people.
Although this is indeed a horrific criime and I hope that their murderer is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, people in their 20's are not children, they are adults. So they shouldn't be referred to as "children".
This needs national attention. You should see if you can cross-post this at the "Trends In Hate" blogsite (www.trendsinhate.com).
Anon, despite their young age, they are still somebodies children, brothers, sisters, cousins, etc.
http://immigrationclearinghouse.org/?p=841
My Note on the sadness for the Dead Chilean Students
Reflections on Racists
Our condolences to the families - And our sadness for every human life lost.
These are unfulfilled lives, unfinished lives, lives that were not concluded. Promising lives. I can refer to them as children because of their tender age, and they are children to their parents.
This is all very sad but reveals a Very Big Cancer of Society : HATE, HATRED, RACISM, ETHNIC CLEANSING.
That the perpetrator is an insane madman should not hide and derail us from us from a painful and dangerous reality.
There are merchants of hate in any TV Set preaching a Gospel of Hate and Racism. In any Radio.
Dannie Roy Baker was also a "Minister" ( of Religion, a stupid sect ) and a good "Christian" ... and his church defended his depredations and hate, and defended his evil actions, until now that he is universally rejected and despised for being a criminal.
I receive tons of Hate Mail because of My Blogs, and some of it comes from "Reverends" and "Pastors".
Their sort of religion becomes more ridiculous and despicable because of the Hate that they spit and spill.
Lots of Information, Videos and Photos on these events and other Racial Murders here :
Raciality.com
Murderor.com
Vicente Duque
When I was in grad school, we had a lot of foreign students that also attended. After graduation they either stay here if they find jobs, or go back home. Either way, they bring to the table different cultural insights and ways of doing things, that serve to enrich everyone whose lives would be touched by theirs. After they finish their education, they then impart their experiences and share them and we are all better off for it, or would have been in this case.
How sad that a hate filled man could change take these lives. His darkness, his hatred and his acts have deprived many people of that which these two students would have had to offer. When it comes to foreign students, many people are also ignorant of the fact that most of them come from money and families that have enough resources to pay for their tuition and living expenses, since they cannot work while they are students, except usually in low paying university jobs (a friend of mine from Canada did this). Usually displaced hatred of Latino immigrants uses the excuse of "jobs" or "crime," but this argument doesn't have a prayer given the usual circumstances that bring foreign students here to study.
Hatred is blind and so are hate groups and their proponents.
Murder is Murder, but we need to think about change,if things continue, americans will be willing to work jobs they would never had considered a couple years ago just to survive. At some point in this deep recession if the lay-off's and comppany closing's continue, we will have to insure jobs for legal citizens and fine and inforce the Immigration laws.
Tamale Chica said :
"When it comes to foreign students, many people are also ignorant of the fact that most of them come from money and families that have enough resources to pay for their tuition and living expenses,"
Dear Tamale Chica :
That is a smart observation. That is part of the Stereotyping and Absurdity of Preconceptions and Prejudices or Pre-Judgements.
That observation is a wonderful shot at the center of the target.
In fact there are a few millions of people in Latin America that have a higher Standard of Life than 90% of Americans. That are not facing foreclosures or unemployment.
I study these guys :
Super Racists, Super Nazis, Super Haters :
They are usually "failed people", also called losers, they do not love and are not loved. Usually filled with inferiority complexes, the sons of abuse and dysfunctional families.
This guy was looking for a bride in the Internet. He is 60 and was looking for a Girl 18-29.
Sounds like a dreamer. He would have never married a Latina of 50 or 55 because of his Racial Hatred or prejudice.
He says "I'm looking for my dream girl that I have waited a lifetime to be with!!!"
Every man that has had a girlfriend knows that one can not wait a lifetime for "my dream girl" but has to make concessions, and the "Perfect Princess of Beauty, Kindness and Sexuality" does not exist.
Let us compare this guy with another Monster : Charles Manson of the horrible Hippy Crimes in Beveryly Hills during the sixties. This was the beginning of the end of Hippism, and the end of the allure and charm of Hippism.
It has been said that Charles Manson had seven sexual relations each day with the Girls in his Harem. So this seems to be like another kind of monster with a different sexuality.
But if my memory is good, Charles Manson was also the son of family dysfunctionality.
Raciality.com
Murderor.com
Vicente Duque
Dee :
A guy that knows Dannie Roy Baker very well since school says that this killer has never worked in his life.
He has been supported all his life by family and Government. He has threatened his parents many times.
He is totally insane. You can look for a post in my RACIALITY.COM where I refer the informant that says that Dannie Baker has always been a failure and a loser, all his life.
The surprising thing is that he was loose and not interned.
Of course the "Normal Society" is full of madmen, like Hate TV, Hate Radio, and many Politicians that border in Madness.
The Informat is here in this page :
It seems that the killer Dannie Roy Baker had a History of Mental Illness, Agression, Hate and conflict and threats to his own Parents
More Information here :
Raciality.com
Murderor.com
Vicente Duque
As a Latino and a Republican who is Catholic, I am disgusted by the hate.
Jose
http://latinorepublicans.ning.com/
Yes. I read Latina Lista. She and the news articles said:
"Those that knew Baker said that while he never illustrated a violent side, he used to run a music ministry, he was known to be eccentric. What really seemed to get under his skin were national political issues.
In fact, employees at the Walton County Republican Headquarters where Baker had volunteered during the 2004 presidential election"
"Baker took to heart the extreme conservative rhetoric that labels all immigrants as undocumented and a threat to U.S. society."
Jose,
This murder is horrific! I hope Baker is charged with a Hate Crime!
Dee,
"Landover Baptist" is a made-up group. The website is intended to be an outrageous parody of Christian far-right churches and websites. Do not take *anything* you read there at face value.
Juancho,
Yes. I noted that in my article.
The problem is the overall level of HATE on many sites on the internet and by the extremists like Hannity, Limbaugh and Beck who incite their audiences to a frothing frenzy so that their fans that are looney like Baker go out looking for anyone they think looks like an "illeegal".
Anon,
Thank you for the suggesetion about the Trends in Hate website. I have referred this crime to them and to the SPLC.
It should be charged as a Hate Crime and the murderer should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
Jorge from Santiago Chile wrote this in one of the Local Fl newspaper comment sections:
Hello Everyone, how's it going?, i determinantly need to clarify that all the persons in the house that nite were Chilean citizens except by one peruvian fella, who all were working as part of a foreign students Work and Travel Programme, i'm chilean, this horrible killing really disturbed our public opinion and made us less skeptical about the awful, twisted and long-term problem with Guns in America's society, the only country where this kind of things happen almost everyday with diferent ntensitive.
Thanx for your time and dedication in reading this statement.
Jorge
Santiago, Chile.
http://www.topix.net/forum/
source/wala/TT0KAUTVURNN2CMCL
One thing we don't want is this labeled a "hate crime". It gives the defense lawyers new grounds for appeal and delays justice.
Let Florida try him on two counts of Capital Murder. That will be enough to put the needle in his arm at Starke.
What "race" is Hispanic?
Hispanic (hispano, hispánico; hispânico; Hispānus, adjective from Hispānia,) the Roman name for the Iberian Peninsula.
Iberian Peninsula??? What is that?
"Iberian Peninsula, or Iberia, is located in the extreme southwest of Europe and includes modern-day Spain, Portugal, Andorra and Gibraltar "
Oh! EUROPEAN (WHITE PEOPLE).
What "race" is Latino?
"The Latins were an ancient Italic people of the Latium region in central Italy, (Latium Vetus - Old Latium)"
More Europeans? (WHITE PEOPLE)
Murder is a crime of hate.
The Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act has bipartisan support in the Senate, but some Republican senators questioned the need for the legislation at a hearing today. The act would expand federal hate crime laws to cover crimes motivated by a victim’s perceived or actual gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or disability. It also would eliminate the prerequisite that a victim be engaged in a federally protected activity, such as voting. Current laws allow for the federal prosecution of hate crimes committed on the base of color, religion and national origin.
"The Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act..." is unConsitutuional.
Article I, Section 8 - Powers of Congress
"**To regulate Commerce** with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes"
While aweful, these crimes are not commerce, thus beyond the powers of Congress.
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