Saturday, March 6, 2010

President Obama Meeting with Key Senators to strategize Immigration Reform

President Obama to meet with key senators on immigration next week!
AP Reports:
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama plans to focus attention on immigration next week by meeting at the White House with two senators crafting a bill on the issue. White House spokesman Nicholas Shapiro said Obama will meet with Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York and Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina on Monday. The president is "looking forward to hearing more about their efforts toward producing a bipartisan bill," Shapiro said Friday. The meeting will be the first Obama has had with Schumer and Graham on the proposal they are developing since they began focusing on it last year.


Immigration has taken a back seat to the economy and health care on Obama's agenda since he took office just over a year ago. Immigrants and their advocates — promised by then-candidate Obama that he would tackle the issue in his first year as president — have been growing frustrated by the inaction. Several community groups planned to vent some of that frustration in a news conference Monday in Washington. The groups also are trying to organize tens of thousands of people from around the country for a March 21 demonstration in Washington.

"The president's commitment to fixing our broken immigration system remains unwavering," Shapiro said.

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

"ILLEGAL ALIENS" and their advocates — promised by then-candidate Obama that he would tackle the issue in his first year as president — have been growing frustrated by the inaction."

There I fixed it for you.

ultima said...

Coming soon to a neighborhood near you courtesy of Senators Schumer, Graham, and McCain The question here is not how many Mexicans does it take to change a light bulb. The question is how many Mexicans does it take to change a neighborhood into a little piece of Mexico that the criminals will soon inhabit so they can begin to prey upon all they believe to be rich.

This excerpted from a two hour episode on Dateline NBC 3/5/2010. It is a chilling story and the family is taking some risk by going public with it. The Mexican police, as expected, were totally corrupt and ineffective. They seem to think their role is only to help negotiate the ransom, not to track down and capture the kidnappers. How long will it be before our police forces are corrupted by the influx of those who believe this is a way of life.

Dee said...

Ultima,
You and other ANTIs confuse CIR.
CIR will fix our broken processes. It does not meet an open gateway at the borders.

As I have always said, CIR supports:
1. Secure Borders
2. Employer Sanctions
3. Clearing the backlog in immigration courts and automating the current processes for entry so no one has to wait 20 years the possibility of entry.
4. A pathway to citizenship for those here that are felony free to apply.

The US will continue to monitor and secure it's borders, harbors and ports. We will continue to have Homeland Security.

We just need to fix the broken processes and enable the immigration process to work.

I agree with you that there are serious problems occurring in Mexico right now. The drug cartels have overtaken the country. The US being the number one user of drugs in the world, has resulted in poor & 3rd world countries falling over themselves to be our drug provider. We need to work with Mexico to help them resolve their drug cartel and corruption problems.

Your unfunny joke about "how many mexicans (Latinos) does it take to ruin a neighborhood" sounds very racist. It sound like more arpaio-like racial profiling. There is very little crime in my neighborhood and it is very multi cultural. If you and your fellow republicans continue supporting this perspective, you will NEVER obtain the 18% Latino Vote in 2010 or 2012.

Anonymous said...

You said your neighborhood is multi-cultural. What has that to do with Ultima's scenario of a neighborhood full of illegal Mexicans?

The immigration process didn't work because it wasn't enforced. So no, it wasn't broken. I am all for your plan of 1-3 but 4 will only encourage more illegal immigration in the future and reward those who have broken our immigration laws. Take that out of the equasion and we then agree on CIR.

The Latino vote equates to nothing compaed to the rest of the nation. I don't know why politicians pander to them.

Anonymous said...

The only reason we have a "broken immigration system" is because Congress has quietly refused to enforce immigration law since the 1986 amnesty.

They have willfully failed to fund enforcement, have willfully punished those who have tried to enforce it, and have willfully prevented the punishment of employers who hire illegal aliens.

What little has been done to date is merely a transparent charade to divert attention from their dereliction of duty of upholding and enforcing law they themselves enact.

The Republicans seek to import a non voting slave class per their business philosophy, the Democrats seek to import a constituency they can't obtain from Americans by hooking the new arrivals on social services.

In the meantime, working class Americans of all ancestries (including from Latin America) have had their once supreme standard of living permanently eroded by Congress supporting the practice of exporting jobs and importing people.

No additional amnesty and no further legislative shell games is going to actually administer this:

"1. Secure Borders
2. Employer Sanctions"

If there are any bloody hands to be found in the appropriate way of remedying or salvaging the immigration mess, one needs look no farther than the "gang of hundreds" on Capitol Hill.

To fix it, I fear, the body of Congress need to be "deported" from their offices on Capitol Hill and be replaced with legislators who will actually enforce immigration law.

ilbegone

Vicente Duque said...

Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina is a Great Guy, without the Hate and Racism of many Poisoned Hearts, Graham is the best of Republicans.

Obama is a very intelligent Man, a calculating machine, very shrewd, very Chicagoan Pol.

Obama is a Great Man and has the potential for being a Great President.

Immigration Reform will fail in 2010, but Obama may have cards inside his sleeves for the Future.

I am not happy with Foreign Policy, perhaps Mr Obama in secret shares some of my misgivings and apprehensions.

Youth, Minorities, Politics :

Milenials.com

Vicente Duque

Anonymous said...

Obama is blinded by dogma.

He's screwed around for a year with "health care reform" (which he has attempted to run through without examination) when what is needed is employment not dependent on federal money tossed out as "stimulus".

I believe Obama is going to be a one term president, with much of his pie in the sky agenda unrealized.

For the record, I dislike the Republican agenda just as much as the Democrat agenda. We're just as screwed either way, and the non - mainstream parties have (incredibly) even less sanity to offer.

Get rid of them all, I say. Start anew.

ilbegone

Anon-az said...

The fact that it is Chuck Schumer and Lindsey Graham pushing this, terrifies me.

They are using Immigration reform to do, dare I say this, what the Nazis did to prevent Jews from working and having lives:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703954904575110124037066854.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird

ID Card for Workers Is at Center of Immigration Plan

Just some excerpts:

By LAURA MECKLER

Lawmakers working to craft a new comprehensive immigration bill have settled on a way to prevent employers from hiring illegal immigrants: a national biometric identification card all American workers would eventually be required to obtain.


".....all legal U.S. workers, including citizens and immigrants, would be issued an ID card with embedded information, such as fingerprints, to tie the card to the worker."

"The biggest objections to the biometric cards may come from privacy advocates, who fear they would become de facto national ID cards that enable the government to track citizens.

"It is fundamentally a massive invasion of people's privacy," said Chris Calabrese, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union. "We're not only talking about fingerprinting every American, treating ordinary Americans like criminals in order to work. We're also talking about a card that would quickly spread from work to voting to travel to pretty much every aspect of American life that requires identification."


Viva La OpresiĆ³n

Anonymous said...

There's a couple of holes in this theory:

1) 1930's Jews were German citizens.

2) The post 2000 American government doesn't toss illegal aliens into ovens after a "nice" Cyclone B "shower".

Nor were there any Jews in pre 1945 Germany who would "borrow" en mass the identity number of a German citizen and run up tax liability for the victim by a large number of illegally present ID thieves working in several provinces at the same time.

The card which is alleged to be in the works can only be for one reason: Americans already have nowhere to hide from electronic tracking from many sources - the card would have to do with verifying citizenship.

Separating the ear tagged sheep from the "undocumented" goats, so to speak, which would naturally be "terrifying" only to an open borders advocate.

ilbegone

Anon-az said...

The Germans used a 'threat' in order to establish a National ID system, targeting ANY person the see fit.

The system these congressmen are trying to impose is targeted at the citizens more than illegals.

Illegals are the implied 'threat', when the real target is something much different.

Just like the crotch-bomber taking off in two (2) foreign countries, but we need the pedo-naked body scanners here in the US?

"Americans already have nowhere to hide from electronic tracking from many sources"

And this would help consolidate that information. You can lie when it comes to 'shopper loyality' cards, use cash instead of credit/debit cards, etc.

"Separating the ear tagged sheep from the "undocumented" goats, so to speak, which would naturally be "terrifying" only to an open borders advocate."

Or to anyone that may have a problem with the Fed linking things like medical, shopping, driving, financial, and voting records into one card.

Makes for a perfect list to target your 'enemies'.....

Anonymous said...

"...the Fed linking things like medical, shopping, driving, financial, and voting records into one card".

It's already here.

Google "data mining law enforcement".

There is also a company which can tell a researcher more about you than your mother can. The name is on the tip of my tongue, starts with a "C", but I can't come up with it right now. It even presumes to inform a client company how to market to YOU based on YOUR SEXUAL PREFERENCE.

And you thought that closing the curtains was sufficient means to privacy.

"The Germans used a 'threat' in order to establish a National ID system, targeting ANY person the see fit."

1930's and 1940's German Nazis pushed a perception of victimization much like "Latino activists" do today. The main difference is that German Nazis did their deed to further a racial dictatorship while "Latino activists" are attempting to subvert a democracy to their own racial ends.

What threat are we describing here?

ilbegone

Anonymous said...

Check this AP article out:

"CDC uses shopper-card data to trace salmonella"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8983891

ilbegone

Anon-az said...

Do you mean like American workers claiming they can't compete with 'Latino-labor'?

How's that for victimization.

The Nazis used 'the Jewish threat' as a means to unite the country into some fever of 'justice'.

I for one refuse to accept the idea that I will have to show my papers- albeit digitally- everywhere I go.

It is still possible to be a ghost, just look at America's Most Wanted.

The level of insanity that exists already is astounding. But this is just another piece of garbage to be shoved down our throats all in the name of _________.

Anonymous said...

"Do you mean like American workers claiming they can't compete with 'Latino-labor'?"

"How's that for victimization."

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Not at all. it's "victimization" a la the Anglo-Sajon cucui, "THE WHITE MAN IS OUT TO GET YOU!!!".
A worn out, decades old show presented by "Latino activists" anywhere they can elbow their way onto a soap box, no cover charge.

And what the heck is "Latino labor"?

"Latino" is a word so broad it is meaningless. It doesn't define language, culture, race, nationality, legal status, or political conviction. However, the media and "Latino activists" pretend it does when it's convenient, and uses it as a dodge when it's not.

What do YOU mean by "Latino labor"?

ilbegone

Anon-az said...

"Latino Labor" is more or less a reference to the 'brown day laborer' population working mostly construction jobs here in the Phoenix area.

I always hear this argument that the 'legal' construction workers can't compete. Much like American auto manufacturing can't compete with foreign auto manufacturing.

I thought that the US prided itself in it's ability to compete.... I suppose only when it's convenient......

Anonymous said...

AZ Anon,

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"Latino Labor" is more or less a reference to the 'brown day laborer' population working mostly construction jobs here in the Phoenix area.

I always hear this argument that the 'legal' construction workers can't compete. Much like American auto manufacturing can't compete with foreign auto manufacturing.

I thought that the US prided itself in it's ability to compete.... I suppose only when it's convenient......

***********


I don't know where you came from (your past experiences concerning employment), but my recollection...

Throughout the 70's, most construction workers were American citizens. There were the old guys who would come to work with a hangover, do an earnest quality job, and every night begin a new day after work by which they incrementally drank themselves to death.

The younger ones learned the trades, then stabbed their former mentor employers in the back by getting their licenses and striking out on their own en mass and flooding the contractor pool.

In 1981, there was a bad recession, there was no work to be found anywhere. Part of the recession involved the oil industry tanking, and oil provided the primary national income for Mexico.

However, as Mexican journalist Alma Guillermoprieto relates, Mexican politicians were spending oil money "with the glee of jumping into a pool full of naked women". Mexican President Lopez Portillo, who had promised to "guard the peso like a dog" necessarily had to devalue the peso (until his death, Lopez Portillo couldn't go out in public without being barked at by his former constituents).

The operating cash of Mexico's growing middle class was wiped out, as well as the relative wealth of the poor who "banked" their savings by burying money in jars.

When the recession ended, cut throat American contractors hired unskilled foreigners at a very cheap rate: how this "saved" on the payroll is doubtful because of all the home owner lawsuits brought against developers and builders for shoddy workmanship.

Then, whole villages and cities in Mexico emptied out with Mexicans flooding the labor market and cutting each other's figurative throats in a downward wage bidding spiral (no one can screw a Mexican like another Mexican). Now those jobs generally pay about 1/2 to 1/3 of 1970's real wages, while they themselves are generally tremendous partiers - perhaps even, as a group, outdoing their American predecessors concerning profound daily states of inebriation.

And quite a few of the ones who have been here all those years and are getting too old and hurting too much to be productive anymore are waking up to the fact that they've been screwed all these years with substandard wages.

The thing that they will never be able to comprehend is the fact that they brought it all on themselves, they themselves are to blame - you can't rape the willing. The employers only aided them in their quest to backdoor everyone who had been before them, and in doing so, they back doored themselves.

And, most of the work is still extremely shoddy, with a good pick up and trim man necessary to fix the stuff he can and hide the the stuff he can't.

A dismal state of affairs.

ilbegone

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