Wednesday, October 17, 2007

Our Next US President


49 comments:

patriot said...

I certainly hope not!

Slyhunter said...

The only thing she stands for is winning the presidency.

We would become a third world country with this woman as our leader.

patriot said...

We don't need anymore bleeding heart liberals in the White House.
What we need is a true conservative president who puts Americans first.

Dee said...

Oh Pat and Sly,
Watch this Video, it explains Hillary´s plan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09fwDjUP8y8

Dee said...

I love Hillary!! Our Next President!!

ultima said...

You left off the bags under eyes and her friend Hsu. Dog catcher is a better fit for her.

Dee said...

Ulty,
How shallow to speak of eye bags. Those who have never had an eye bag can caste the first stone.

Of all candidates running, she is, by far, the most qualified person!

ultima said...

There's a few things Hillary didn't mention about her so-called plan:
1. She copied it from Mitt Romney.
2. She didn't mention the cost and how much taxes would have to go up to pay for health care for the indigent.
4. Why more people haven't, including those with children, haven't taken advantage of the HSAs that require a minimum contribution of $25/ month.
5. Why families can't afford a family HSA for their children rather than asking their neighbor to pay.

It's easy to advocate new programs if you don't have to talk about what they will cost and who will have to pay for them.

When I was a child we didn't have such a thing as health insurance. Shots like those for diphtheria were given gratis in school.

Dee said...

gratis = taxpayer expense, even in your day.

Slyhunter said...

As usual Dee you show how selfish and selfcentered you are. You like Hillary because she'll give you stuff. As usual with your handout. You will simply vote for the person who gives the most handouts. And that isn't what made America great.

Dee said...

Sly,
I vote on the issues. I suppose you like Johnnie One Notes like Tancredo or Ru Paul. Take the quiz on the side of my blog and see which candidate is most in line with your views, all of your views.

I did. That is why I like Hillary.

ultima said...

"Of all candidates running, she is, by far, the most qualified person!"

She has never had an executive position in her life -- not a governor, not a mayor, not a dog catcher. Why should she be considered the best qualified to be our chief executive?

ultima said...

"Those who have never had an eye bag can caste the first stone."

I did! Let's have a contest to find the photo that shows her in her truest light.

ultima said...

"gratis = taxpayer expense, even in your day."

Sorry but no cigar. The vaccine was donated by a local doctor perhaps with the contributions of others.

Dee said...

Ulty,

A US Senator, A US Senator, A US Senator is NOT a qualifying position?

Dee said...

You rate a Governor, a Mayor and a Dog Catcher above a US Senator?? (she asks incredulously)

Dee said...

You have never had an eye bag Ulty?

I saw your Graffiti of my Pix of her on your blog. I think you broke the rule of graffiti law!

patriot said...

Not that I ever considered voting for Hillary because I don't like her policies nor the Democrats but she put the final nail in her coffin with me when she suggested that we give every newborn a $5,000 gift/bond. Oh, now there is a real incentive for those with high birthrates and another to entice more illegal aliens into our country. Who the hell does she think would be paying for that? Maybe we should be giving $5,000 to every set of parents who doesn't have more than two children. That would make a lot more sense. We need to get our population growth under control.

Dee said...

Gosh Pat,
Now you want to start the Chinese One Child Policy in the US?

Gosh!!

Dee said...

I thought you were against abortion? I am.

The one child, two children policy "is controversial both within and outside China due to allegations of extreme methods such as forced abortions and other human rights abuses by the local authorities. Alleged punishments may include amputation of genitals and forced sterilization."

Yikes!!

patriot said...

dee, why do you spin other's posts all the time? I said two children to get the $5,000. I didn't suggest that we prevent parents from having more children, they just wouldn't get the money, thats all.

patriot said...

I am opposed to abortion. Where did I say otherwise?

Dee said...

Pat,
You cannot say you support A, when B and C are what follows.
You cannot support 1 to 2 children restrictions without saying the lengths needed to ensure people follow the process or what the penalities are if you disobey.
Hence Abortion or Penalties as I described and as they perform in China when such measures are imposed.

patriot said...

Are you dense or what? Should I put this in caps so that you understand it? Again, I said I think we should reward two child families but not those who have more children. That means no reward and NO penatly for doing so!!!!! I didn't say that we should stop them from having more children nor did I say anything about aborting children. Family planning doesn't equate an advocacy for abortion. I can't believe how you continue to twist people's posts in here.

Dee said...

Pat,
I say logic prevails.
If you advocate one or two children families as China did, then you need to put like measures in place to ensure compliance, otherwise your advocacy means nothing.

As for me, I don´t advocate this at all!

patriot said...

Geez, you really are that dense, aren't you?

Forcing someone to do something and enticing them or suggesting that they do something else are two different things. There is no need for compliance if one is not being forced. An opinion on something isn't forcing anyone to behave a certain way either.

Stop ready these posts through your whiskey glass. It is blurring your vision and interupting your thought process.

Dee said...

Pat,
You are so funny.
Whiskey Glass is not me. Maybe cowboys like you, but not me.

I still say wishing people to have one or two children is all pie in the sky.

Either you want it or you don´t. I don´t.

patriot said...

I am not a cowboy in any sense of the word and only drink once in awhile at social ooccasion and I never get drunk. I don't believe in it.

There has to be some explanation as to why you can't seem to comprehend anything that is presented to you. I was befuddled so thought perhaps you are reading the posts during happy hour. Certainly you couldn't be that dense sober could you?

Slyhunter said...

I don't think people should drink. I don't think we should force people to not drink by making it against the law.

Same thing can be said about kids. People shouldn't have more kids than they can afford. Only irresponsible people have more kids than they can afford. We should not reward them by giving them increased wellfare payments, for example, for having more kids than they can afford. But then we aren't at the point where we should make it a violation of law for them to have more kids than they can afford.

Dee said...

Pat and Sly,
Perhaps this will help you understand what true Americans really want:

"Among these inalienable rights.. is the right of people to pursue their happiness in any manner which may increase their prosperity or develop their faculties, so as to give to them their highest enjoyment."

partiot said...

Oh don't go getting all sanctimonious like you are Mother Theresa or something. I don't need you, an anarchist to tell me what a true American is or what they want.

A true American obeys the laws of this country and puts its interests and the interests of the American people first. That right to the pursuit of happiness still has limits within our laws.

We have no laws stating how many children we can and cannot have and I don't think we should have either. But there is nothing wrong in having incentives to have smaller families for the good of the country as a whole. One can exercise birth control without resorting to abortion of which I said I am opposed to.

Dee said...

My gosh Pat.
I am a true, loyal Patriotic American.

It is not nice to call people anarchists.

patriot said...

Those who support the illegal invasion of our country are anarchists, not loyal American citizens. Its kind of a no-brainer you know.

Dee said...

Pat,
No one but you knows your definition of "Illegal Invasion."

Obviously you have not read nor understood the Immigration History of our country. We have never had an Invasion, more of an invitation. Please study the Immigration Acts starting with the Act of 1924 so you understand what has happened and why we are in our current state.

Then understand our Bill of Rights so you understand why it is ok in our country to have differing opinions and have the ability to speak them.

Then you may want to venture into an online Dictionary so you understand the meaning of the words you use.

Also, remember I believe in the Bill of Rights and Freedom of Speech, especially on my blog, and that is why I defend your right to say what you will and to disagree as long as you are civil. Thank you Pat.

patriot said...

If 12-30 million illegals in our country doesn't constitute an illegal invasion then I don't know what does.

In accordance with our laws and on paper, "we" did not invite these people. Employers wishing to have cheap illegal labor don't have the authority to "invite" them and neither does our government without insisting they come with proper paperwork. Your argument is just plain lame.

I don't care what went down in history, we are talking about today and today's immigration laws. Another lame argument that you keep spouting in here.

We may have the freedom of differing opinions in this country but we don't have the freedom to aid an abet illegal aliens. Or taking the position of the opposite side of our laws.

The pro's as you call them aren't being civil when they call those of us who support our immigration laws, racists, xenophobes and haters. Ring a bell, dee?

Dee said...

That is what is wrong with your argument. As you said, you "don´t care what went down in History" or what brought us to this point.

As far as name calling from any group, all you have to do is check back at your own posts and see where the name calling begins.

patriot said...

There is nothing I can do or anyone else can do to change the past so it is irrelevant to immigration policy today. That is what I meant about not caring about it, nothing more.

We need to stop it, not sit around talking about how we got to this point. We already know what got us to this point. It was the non-enforcement of our immmigration laws, period!

I never "begin" name calling, I merely defend myself against those that initiate name calling. Besides we are talking about the whole pro group that does this, not just individuals. The entire pro group constantly uses words like racist, xenophobe, hater, etc. against those who oppose illegal immigration. Even when an anti is civil about their opinions on it.

Slyhunter said...

Dee better find yourself another nominee to back.
"WASHINGTON - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Thursday that immigrants living in the U.S. illegally would not be covered by her proposed universal health care plan.

Unless we stop the flow if Illigals. People living Illigal in America are going to have a harder time. I'm sure most people are will to help if we could shut the border. Until we can do that Less free, free, free."

Dee said...

Hillary does believe in a path to citizenship for the 12M here.

Additionally, re her healthcare plan, her full statement was:

Clinton Health Plan for Americans Only
BETH FOUHY Associated Press Writer

(AP) - WASHINGTON-Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Thursday that immigrants living in the U.S. illegally would not be covered by her proposed universal health care plan.

The New York senator said she supports basic health services for illegal immigrants, including hospitalization and treatment of acute conditions. But she said the magnitude of the nation's health care challenge means her universal coverage proposal would not cover the 12 million people living in the country illegally.

"People who are here legally deserve some better treatment and acceptance in the law than people who are not here legally," she said. "These are hard choices."

Dee said...

This is a logical approach.

ultima said...

I don't recognize her. Are you sure you got the right person?

ultima said...

"Among these inalienable rights.. is the right of people to pursue their happiness in any manner which may increase their prosperity or develop their faculties, so as to give to them their highest enjoyment."

How does having more children than you can support, educate and provide health care for increase your prosperity?

I guess you think depending on SCHIP, ADC, welfare,and Medicaid all funded by your neighbors or fellow citizens increases your prosperity.

ultima said...

"I vote on the issues. I suppose you like Johnnie One Notes like Tancredo or Ru Paul."

I heard Ron Paul the other day and he certainly didn't sound like Johnnie One Note. That's just more of your distortions and propaganda. Also if you watched the GOP debates, you would have realized that none of the candidates were one notes.

ultima said...

"A US Senator, A US Senator, A US Senator is NOT a qualifying position?"

What another distortion? What I said was she had no executive experience. You do realize that is different from legislative experience, don't you?

ultima said...

"I saw your Graffiti of my Pix of her on your blog. I think you broke the rule of graffiti law!"

I know you did from the comments you made. The graffiti law is not applicable since your original was not altered on your site. I can get a copy of the Mona Lisa and use crayon or a knife on it and it wouldn't be graffiti. Yet another distortion?

Note that just in case my alteration was in poor taste, I have deleted it.

ultima said...

We stand on the abyss of the unarmed invasion of illegal aliens regardless of how or why they got here.

Their presence in violation of the law erodes the veneer of civilization and the rule of law that defines civilization. One cannot aid and abet this conduct and still claim to be a patriotic,loyal law abiding citizen.

Dee said...

Well Ulty since you took down my candidates editted picture from your site, I took down the editted picture I had of your candidate from mine.

Thank you.

thepaintman said...

Noooooo, not hillary

Dee said...

Paint,
Thank you for your endorsement. Mrs. President is sure to win. Ask Elvis!!

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