Wednesday, October 31, 2007

Ugly Americans!

What do these men have in common?

They are all Ugly Americans. Evil, Evil, Ugly Americans!!
Terms they use: Mexifornia for California! Third World for Miami or other Hispanic American Neighborhoods! Promote Racial Profiling for all Hispanic Americans!! They attack Hillary! They Attack Comprehensive Immigration Reform!!
Ask them this question. How would they answer.

"Are you advocating Mass Deportation of the 12M? If not, then you are just like the current Administration. They continue to partner with Business to bring in and employ these workers. You are content to live in a Political Hypocrisy, let the 12M live in the shadows, drive on our roads, invisible and without identity. That is the true double speak that continues to thrive in our current administration and which you apparently are supporting. Our economy cannot withstand the Mass Deportation of 12M people. I ask anyone, anyone in Congress or any legitimate economist to prove otherwise. If you do not advocate Mass Deportation, then you need to say so, forthrightly. It is time we bring the 12M out of the shadows. We need Comprehensive Immigration Reform."


patriot said...

Race card alert!

Bob said...

Evil, ugly racist post.

patriot said...

Are you talking about the the title and content of this topic?

Dee said...

Anyone who uses these terms is an Ugly American!

The ADL agrees!

ultima said...

You're right anyone who uses terms like "racist", "xenophobic", "bigot" and "nativist" to further their aims of mass amnesty or legalization of 12 million illegal aliens are surely ugly Americans.

Those who believe in a major reduction in the number of illegal aliens in this country are merely trying to make the point that they are after all illegal and that physical barriers and more border patrol agents can only do so much. A message must be sent that if you are illegal you will remain in the shadows and the best thing you can do is to go home. Without some degree of deportation all other measures will fail just as they have since the 1986 law.

Mass deportation is feasible if placed in the hands of private enterprise but there would be some initial cost to our economy because of all the jobs that have been usurped by illegals that would now have to be refilled with qualified citizens or legal temporary workers.

Fully 50% of the American people feel antithesis towards Hillary so Hillary-bashing is mainstream. If she can't take the heat, she should get out of the kitchen.

Comprehensive immigration reform is just a code phrase for open borders. The advocates of this approach are just as guilty as any others of partnering with businesses to flood America with foreigners.

I do not support any administration or congressman who does not put the national interest first and who does not seek a systematic approach to the deportation of all the illegals we do not need and the legalization of those temporary workers we do.

The evil, evil, ugly Americans are those myopic or blind citizens who because of their ethnic origins can not see the threat and deadly consequences of immigration's unarmed invasion. They live in another form of shadow. There should be a shadow on their consciences and they undoubtedly have a lesion on the illegal alien lobe of their brains.

If they had any brains, they would see what they propose to give away to foreigners and foreign interests. If they had any brains, they would be able to look into the future beyond the nose on their faces and see what they advocate will do to America. They would be able to see that it is not the brown face next door; it is what they symbolize for the future of our country. If they were unable to straighten out their own countries, it is highly probable that they will re-create the very conditions they left their homelands to escape. When that happens then maybe the pro-illegals will wake up to the realities of Mexifornia and Mexico Norte. The ADL has no particular insights into this issue. It too has failed to recognize the reality of the threat to America -- a typical liberal failing.

Dee said...

The Racism card is on the table. You ANTIs pretend to be politically correct and not use it openly, but it is your underlying motivation as proven on Hardball and as published by the ADL. It is a FACT. It is a FACT and it makes ANTIs who feel this way the Ugly, Ugly Americans!

Usurped is an incorrect term. Enticed to come here by hiring employers is the factual term.

Mass Deportation will devastate this economy. If that is what the government mandates, then they should put measures in place to do it. If they don´t do it, then they need to put measures in place to bring the 12M out of the shadows legally, Comprehensive Immigration Reform!

Dee said...

The ANTIs support Japanese Internment camps ala ICE Detention Centers.

The ANTIs support Operation Wetback ala MASS Deportation.

The ANTIs advocate illegal activities by NOT promoting Comprehensive Immigration Reform for the 12M here.

Anonymous said...

I was not even born when Operation Wetback happened or when the Japanese were interred. I look at those events and say they shouldn't have happened but I evaluate the illegal hispanic invasion happening today and say it is wrong. Does that make me an ugly American? Or am I a loyal American who loves my country?

Dee said...

Anon, It just makes you an uninformed American. Please study the History of Immigration.

You should also reference, specifically, the Immigration Act of 1924 which includes retrictions all European and Asian immigration and none on latin countries.

and the
Bracero Program
Which includes the partnership of US and Latin countries to import workers from Latin counties.

Keep in mind the Immigration Laws have gone unenforced.

Then decide how you feel about why we are in our current state.

patriot said...


So you, ADL, etc. can read into the hearts and minds of every single anti in this country? How do you do that? It is not a FACT that most Americans opposed to illegal immigration and YOUR type of immigration reform are ugly, racist Americans. Where is your proof of that besides only your biased, irrational opinion? Where, where, where? You cannot make statements like that as FACT!!!

Why do you continually bring up the past and the economy? Those things have already been addressed to you too. What is wrong with you????????

Anonymous said...

I am just a loyal American citizen who is against illegal immigration. I am not a racist. Just because the immigration laws were unenforced does not mean we do not need to start enforcing them now. 12 million plus illegals is TOO many to even think of making legal. They need to return to their home countries and apply to come here legally. If the job market needs them, we will surely know it when they are gone and we can then make arrangements to let in who this country needs. This does not just pertain to illegal hispanics but to every illegal alien from any country.

Dee said...

Pat, You live in the land of dee-nial if you believe terms like Mexifornia, 3rd World Country, illegal immigration ok if you are Canadian, etc is NOT racist!

patriot said...

Nope those terms are not racist.
If millions of anglos were to illegally invade Mexico, I would certainly understand it if they termed their country starting to look like "Angloexico" and that it was starting to resemble a First World Country. It would be a fact based on the changing demographics, not a racist remark.

No, illegal immigration into our country is not ok if you are a Canadian.

You act like you are drinking or something today with your all day tirade in here. Have you considered AAA?

patriot said...

I mean AA.

Dee said...

I am going to start calling you Dog as in the Bounty Hunter!

And I do have Triple A!!

I know men like you hate tough women. So sad for you!

patriot said...

Nope! I don't hate tough women, I admire them. My wife is one tough cookie but she is rational and a loyal American. What I do hate are un-American, ethnocentric traitors in this country no matter what their gender is.

Dee said...

I bet.

And, I bet you never used the word "ethnocentric" before the ANTIs rehearsed it with you!


Liquidmicro said...

What I find idiotic on Dee's behalf is in this topic: Ugly Americans, the picture she uses has a picture of Chris Mathews as the first one, yet within a few new topics she praises him for the headline: LET´S PLAY HARDBALL: It´s Called RACISM Stupid!

My god Dee, are you really this ignorant??

Dee said...

You call that Praise?

Who is ignorant?!?


Liquidmicro said...

Matthews, "I would like to see a liberal policy of immigration, a liberal policy of letting people come into work."

This is Matthews position on immigration, same as yours, are you then not praising him? What exactly do YOU call it?

patriot said...

Jose Angel Gutierrez, 'Chicano Studies' professor and founder of 'The United Race' political party, has said:
"We have an aging white America. . . . They are dying. . . . They are ******** in their pants with fear! I love it!" "We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him." And since 1970, he has professed, "Our devil has pale skin and blue eyes."

Dee said...

Pat, As you are well aware, the ANTI group, the American Patrol, took this 1969 quote out of context. It is an ISOLATED possible misquote. Nothing to do with your ANTI pipedream of Reconquista. Here is what the neutral wikipedia says on the subject:

The anti-illegal immigration group American Patrol quotes him as saying, "We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."[1]

There still remains some debate about the actual words Gutierrez used in his famous "kill the Gringo" speech of April 10 or 11, 1969 in San Antonio when he was head of the Mexican American Youth Organization (MAYO). In his speech which was mainly about Mexican American civil rights (these are U.S. citizens of Mexican ancestry) he said:

"We realize that the effects of cultural genocide takes many forms—some Mexicanos will become psychologically castrated, others will become demagogues and gringos as well and others will come together, resist and eliminate the gringo. We will be the latter.”

Questions followed the press statement, particularly from Kemper Diehl, a reporter with the San Antonio Express News. Diehl wrote an article on the press conference and printed his version of an exchange:

Q: What do you mean by ‘eliminate the gringo?’

A: “You can eliminate an individual in various ways. You can certainly kill him but that is not our intent at this moment. You can remove the base of support that he operates from be it economic, political, social. That is what we intend to do.”

Kemper Diehl wrote more: “Gutierrez was again pressed as to intentions of killing gringos ‘if worst comes to worst.’ He replied ‘If worst comes to worst and we have to resort to that means, it would be self-defense.’ ” Gutierrez went on to be quoted as detailing attempts on his life and property just a few years before in Crystal City, Texas.

In "A Challenge to Build a New Society," New York Times, April 20, 1969, Gutierrez was quoted as saying "we intend to eliminate the Gringo." Gutierrez is described as a veteran, and "scholarly" and is quoted as advocating violence only in "self-defense."

This "kill the Gringo" quote may have been mis-quoted in a San Antonio Express newspaper editorial on April 12, 1969 which described MAYO as a "handful of apparently frustrated young men" and Gutierrez as a "violent" young man.

It is worth mentioning that after his 1969 comments the San Antonio newspapers carried criticisms by Anglos and Mexican Americans alike. He was called a "boy," a "baby face" and a "young juvenile with a tamale on his shoulder" in letters running in the Dallas Morning News April 12, 1969, and San Antonio Express letters from April 12, 16, and 20, 1969.

In a Wall Street Journal article titled "The Angry Chicano" June 11, 1970 Gutierrez, then heading La Raza Unida Party in Crystal City, Texas, is quoted as saying: "It's too late for the Gringo to make amends. Violence has got to come." The article detailed the extreme poverty, poor working conditions, and frustration felt by young Mexican American citizens at the start of the 1970s as they sought to build their own civil rights movement as citizens in the United States.

Dee said...

Matthews is misguided. I have heard him on several occassions talk about Latin immigrants (legal and illegal) turning America into 3rd world, not wanting minorities in his neighborhood, on and on.

He constantly attacks Hillary.

He is a little like Archie Bunker who doesn´t think he is racist.

Anonymous said...

Professor Reconquista is disgusting. Now he is trying to wiggle his way out of it. It is too late.

Dee said...

The ANTI Hate Group American Patrol should be ashamed of themselves for stirring up so much hate and animosity and misrepresenting and twisting a statement from 1969.

Reconquista, Sheconquista, BOGUS Hate Drivel by the hateful Patrol group!

Anonymous said...

I think the Professor's statment was quite clear. Patiot posted it word for word. The words weren't changed at all. But the Professor tried to back peddle on it. How can you possibly explain away, "we must kill the gringo"? No one would expess themself in that way and mean something else. How gullible are you anyway?

Dee said...

Obviously Anon, you are not reading the documentation.

As noted:
"There still remains some debate about the actual words Gutierrez used in his famous "kill the Gringo" speech of April 10 or 11, 1969 in San Antonio when he was head of the Mexican American Youth Organization (MAYO). In his speech which was mainly about Mexican American civil rights."

As noted, this had Nothing to do with the ANTI´s obsession with Reconquista, Sheconquista! Such a bogus, made up fairy tale!

Anonymous said...

Go read one of the other topics. I posted a whole list of reconquistas and their remarks in there. They aren't made up by some anti's, they are a matter of public record.

Dee said...

Were you alive in 1969? You know. The Civil Rights Movement. The Vietnam Protests. Black Power. Chicano Youth Movement.

Hellooooooooo Is Anyone there?

Anonymous said...

Yes, I was alive in 1969 but what has that or the Civil Rights Movement or any of these other occurances have to do with the reconquista movement of today?

Anonymous said...

Here is the truth, dee. The reconquista movement is alive and well. Deny away all you want. Stick you head in the sand. You are hopeless. I am done with this now.

Dee said...

Why don´t you study?
Let´s look at the Mexica movement. It is not Mexican. Hello.
It is a group of people who say they represent indigenous people of the Americas. They are Native Americans, Canadian Native American and Mexican Native Americans who are peacefully trying to get "TRUTH OF THE CRIMES THAT EUROPEANS HAVE COMMITTED THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AGAINST THE NON-WHITE WORLD IN THE LAST 500 YEARS".

Its a small group, but they are NOT what you term Reconquistas and they are not what you would term "a bunch of Mexicans."

For once, I wish you would study!

Dee said...

The Aztlan text you keep quoting is misquotations from the 1969 Chicano movement. And, as you said, "Yes, I was alive in 1969 but what has that or the Civil Rights Movement or any of these other occurances have to do with the reconquista movement of today?"

Hello Anon, are you even reading your OWN responses?

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