Tuesday, December 30, 2008

Another Hate Crime Against a Latino: American Military Veteran Victim of Baseball Bat Attack!

Another American Citizen Latino was racially profiled as an illegal immigrant and beat over the head with a baseball bat! This time the victim was an 8 year Marine Corps Veteran - American!
As you read the article, consider this:
1. Why did the perpetrators automatically assume this man was an illegal immigrant? (with their comment "Get out of our country")
2. Why did the perpetrators think it was ok to attack who they thought was an illegal immigrant with a baseball bat?
3. Why did they have a baseball bat in their car in December, in Massachusetts, at 2:40 am?
Hate crime investigated in Revere
REVERE - Revere police say the two men who allegedly beat a Hispanic man with a baseball bat while taunting him with racial slurs Saturday at a Wendy's restaurant drive-thru could be charged with a hate crime."If you have language of that nature coupled with an assault and battery, it can be defined as a hate crime," Police Capt. Michael Murphy said. "Whether or not the motivation of this assault was based on race is something we'd have to discuss with the district attorney."The 33-year-old victim, a Revere resident, told police the incident started at about 2:40 a.m. after he and his wife placed an order at the drive-thru on Squire Road. The man and his wife began to drive away when they realized an error was made in their order, police said. The man walked back to the drive-thru window, as the restaurant building was closed to customers, to try to fix the problem, police said. As he was at the window, two men inside one of the waiting cars began yelling at the man and began using racial slurs.
"The victim reported that the men shouted at him to get out of the country and used racial epithets offensive to the Hispanic culture," Murphy said. In defense, the victim informed the suspects that not only is he a U.S. Citizen, but is an eight-year Marine Corps veteran, police said.The argument escalated before the suspects allegedly got out of their vehicle and began beating the man with a baseball bat. He suffered injuries to his head, back and arms but declined medical attention.The suspects fled the scene in a silver or gray Dodge Neon, police said. Detectives are examining surveillance video to gather more information.

11 comments:

The Arizonian said...

Dee,

I'm just going to ask:

Do you think anyone here will actually stand up and defend hate crimes?

I didn't think so......

I usually don't post in these stories because they anger me as well. I believe stories like these get tangled into other aspects that it doesn't belong. I.E.: immigration.

Many would use crimes like these to point out a 'need for CIR and open borders', which is false. what it indicates, as always, is that there needs to be a shift in thinking altogether, not immigration.

But what do expect from angry racist retards?
Seriously.....

Anonymous said...

Ariz,

Of course none of us in here would defend any hate crimes. I certainly don't.

If these hate crimes are being used to argue for a CIR then someone isn't thinking clearly because it will change nothing. In fact those hate crimes committed against Latinos, I predict would accelerate because Americans will not stand for yet another amnesty because it would favor Latinos once again and reward them for breaking our immigration laws. That is the reality of the situation.

If Latino citizens truly want to live in peace and have hate crimes decreased against their ethnic group they should be pushing for enforcement of our laws, not another amnesty.

Dee said...

Az,
I agree a small group of racist nutzos commit these crimes. What usually happens when no one is killed in one of these attacks? Nothing. Except, the nutzos continue to walk around and commit more of these crimes.

My first goal: What I hope to do by writing about them is keep them on the front burner so law enforcement goes after these guys and punishes them to the fullest extent of the law. Then, since the nutzos know they are being watched, these crimes will not be as likely to happen. If my keeping attention on them stops even one murder, then I will have accomplished my goal.

Now you might ask, how does this relate to the Immigration discussion. In each of these Hate Crimes against Latinos the criminals refer to illegal immigrants (Go Back to Mexico, Get out of our country, I hate minorities, etc.). These criminals are rationalizing, to themselves, these attacks based on their hate of illegal immigrants. They cannot tell an ii by looking at them so consequently they lash out to any brown person, anyone they think looks like an illegal immigrant.

Now understand, I dont think nor have I ever said All ANTIs are these nutcases, however a fraction are and they use this whole anti obsession to fuel their hate and rationalize it.

My second goal is to stop-reduce all of the HATE Talk against ii´s and overall, against Latinos so the violence stops. By bringing these crimes to light, the violence is reduced and the Hate Talk is reduced.

Dee said...

Anon,
More HATE Talk by you.
Nothing like predicting MORE Latino DEATHs if you don´t get your way!
Shame on you!!

Anonymous said...
If these hate crimes are being used to argue for a CIR then someone isn't thinking clearly because it will change nothing. In fact those hate crimes committed against Latinos, I predict would accelerate because Americans will not stand for yet another amnesty because it would favor Latinos once again and reward them for breaking our immigration laws. That is the reality of the situation.

The Arizonian said...

"These criminals are rationalizing, to themselves, these attacks based on their hate of illegal immigrants."

I would agree to some extent, except that these people are unstable to begin with. The Immigration debate is just the new excuse (and a poor one at that). It still illegal to assault, kill or harass someone anyway. Using the immigration debate as an excuse to commit these crimes doesn't change the crime in the first place.
I would content that this similar to:
1. Fundamentalist Christians killing abortion doctors
2. Environmental extremists setting fire to a Hummer dealership in Cali
3. Carpet bombing Vietnam
Ect.
Essentially, you seem to blame the debate for these whack-jobs going out and committing these crimes....
And Marilyn Manson caused Columbine?
Again, theses hate crimes are caused by unstable people in the first place, mix that with economic troubles, a dash of rhetoric, and you get a crap sandwich.

But these people are unstable in the first place, and are looking for any 'valid' reason to lash out.

Dee said...

Az,
I agree to a degree. The wackos will probably continue to find crimes to commit.

But consider what the Rep. said in Patchogue on the 1st day of the crime. (Beaner Jumping murder)
He said he didnt understand the uproar when this was only 1 day´s news.
He was wrong. The PRO Blogosphere made it an issue and this story will continue to be an issue until trial.
As a result, numerous other Beaner Jumpings have been caught and stopped. The community has seen a significant drop in the bullying. The attention is causing a reduction in these type of crimes.

Perhaps more media attention should be brought to other types of hate crimes or just crimes in general. BTK, Bundy and other serial killers were stopped because of the media attention.
The same for Hate Crimes against Blacks in the Southern states. It wasnt until the ACLU and SPLC started suing the KKK that their memberships and hate crimes significantly reduced. If you ignore these crimes they continue.

Dee said...

Perhaps the worst thing about this crime was the perpetrators racial profiled a young Latino Veteran ASSUMing he was an ii. They beat him in the head with a Baseball bat! Just deplorable!!

Anonymous said...

Anon,
More HATE Talk by you.
Nothing like predicting MORE Latino DEATHs if you don´t get your way!
Shame on you!!


These were my exact words that I started out with "none of us here defends hate crimes". How dishonest of you to ignore that part and then try to claim I think otherwise. The rest of my post was just dealing in reality and I never said that I condoned it. Sorry, that you feel that pointing out the reality of the situation is hate talk. It would only be so if I were condoning it.

As I said, if I am not as an anti entitled to an opinion in here then please remove that from your blog mission statement and stop deleting my posts.

The Arizonian said...

He probably didn't understand the uproar because violent crime is fairly prevalent in the US. I'm not defending him,but I come from the school of giving everyone the benefit of the doubt. I'm sure I read that somewhere.

The Arizonian said...

Dee said:
"Perhaps more media attention should be brought to other types of hate crimes or just crimes in general."

It's the latter part I agree with mostly. Given the right definition, most crime could be labeled 'hate crimes'. We should focus on the law, not our irrational 'feelings' when it comes to crime and punishment.

Vicente Duque said...

A very long list of Latinos beaten and kicked to death in New York City :

Manuel Aucaquizhpi 1994
Rene Perez 2007
Marcelo Lucero 2008
Jose Sucuzhanay 2008

Add Luis Ramirez kicked to death in Shenandoah Pennsylvania in July 2008

Even white people have been beaten as in New York because it was dark and they were wearing a hood.

Be careful to get a tan on the beach if you are White, because then you could easily be taken for being brown, and next you would be beaten with a baseball bat by a gang of thugs, or kicked to death by these cowards and losers.

Racial Hate and anti-Gay Hate goes deeper than any Discussion on Politics, Enforcement, Citizenship or Laws.

Impunity begets murder. If Impunity for Murder continues then American Citizens will also be beaten and kicked to death by gangs of terrorists and cowards.

Raciality.com

Vicente Duque

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