Friday, July 23, 2010

NN 2010 Panel Discussion: Immigration Reform's Strange Bedfellows

NN 2010: The first panel discussion I attended was titled, "Immigration Reform's Strange Bedfellows: The surprising consensus that reform will improve American Jobs and bolster our economy." Panel members included: Mark Lauritsen from the UFCW who hosted the panel, AZ State Rep Krysten Sinema, Adam Luna from America's Voice, Andrea Nill from Think Progress and (my personal favorite) Sacramento Sheriff Art Venegas (ret).

Mark Lauritsen introduced himself and each member of the panel. Each panel member (Mark, Krysten, Adam, Andrea and Art) shared their background and their support for Comprehensive Immigration Reform (CIR) to be passed at the Federal level. Mark provided his background in the Meatpacking industry, the value of the migrant/guest workers and his opposition to exploitive employers. These employers are responsible for low wages and working conditions and they must be stopped. From his experience he knows how inhumane ICE raids are and how many citizens were racially profiled through these raids. He cited examples including the Swift raids and a raid where a citizen friend of his was racially profiled during a raid. He and the other panelists shared their views on the need for the passage of CIR. Each panel also cited the need to stop sb1070, a bill that will racially profile Latino citizens and criminalize friends and family members.

Rep Sinema, Andrea Nill and Adam Luna cited studies that indicated the revenue/sales taxes paid by undocumented workers which is far greater than the costs some nativist groups suggest they impose. They also cited studies which indicate these workers create jobs. Mark Lauritsen referenced the impact the ICE Raids had on Postville, Iowa and how these raids bankrupted the town.

Andrea Nill, a very knowledgeable young woman, connected the dots to identify who is behind sb1070 and the "ANTI" movement -- The John Tanton Network including CIS (research arm), FAIR (legal arm) and NumbersUSA (grassroots arm) and their FEAR Agenda. While they attempt to be mainstream, in reality they are extremists identified by the ADL and SPLC as Hate Groups.

The most impressive panel member was Sacramento Sheriff Art Venegas who is now retired, and is the Project Director for the "Law Enforcement Engagement Initiative (
LEEI)." From their website, the groups mission: "The Law Enforcement Engagement initiative (LEEI) was created to advance the dialogue towards common-sense immigration reform among policing professionals and for their voice of reason to be heard throughout America. The Law Enforcement Engagement Initiative works with professional law enforcement organizations and individual policing executives to educate the American people and its elected leaders on the real effects of a broken immigration system and its threat to our national security." Law enforcement from across the country have joined together in this group and have gone to Washington asking the Attorney General Eric Holder, the President and his Administration to stop sb1070 and clone laws being presented in other states. They request the Federal Government be responsible for enforcing and reforming Immigration laws.

Sheriff Venegas provided much needed details to the audience as to why sb1070 should not be passed. He asked all attendees to read the bill in detail and understand the implications. He explained the verbiage of the bill including "may" vs "shall" was very intentional and will ultimately result in racial profiling. He explained that beyond the racial profiling aspects of the bill, he also said friends and families will be criminalized and how citizens with an agenda are prompted to report those they "suspect" are illegal immigrants to police and if the police do not come, they can sue the police. (my long time viewers are familiar with these impacts of sb1070 since I've written about them so often). Sheriff Venegas also said sb1070 will force law enforcement to become immigration officers versus focusing on keeping the peace in their communities. Additionally, it is critical that law enforcement have eyes and ears in the community, and with the passage of sb1070, the undocumented will live in fear of the police and never assist law enforcement identify felonious criminals because they will live in fear of deportation. Additionally, the intent of the bill is Mass Deportation. The cost of Mass Deportation of 12M people plus their children has been calculated to be $20K per person, totalling $2.6 Trillion dollars!

Sheriff Venegas also talked about the need for all of us, from each Progressive group, from bloggers to activists to business to clergy -- from all ethnicities -- we must unite and become involved. We must read and understand the impact of sb1070. We must understand the negative impacts to our communities. We must get involved. Bloggers must blog so all of our viewers understand the bill, the costs and the ultimate detrimental impacts to the community. We must unite and support CIR being passed at the Federal level.

Afterwards, I spoke to the Sheriff's wife who was sitting close to me. I said I was impressed by her husband's words. I let her know I was already involved, studied the issues and write about them on my blog. Her husband joined us and I said I agreed with him. We needed many more people just like him so people understand the issues. He asked for and I provided him my blog address. He gave me his card and I promised to visit his website, which I have now placed on my blogroll. I invited him to be a "Guest Voz" here and hopefully he will be writing a blog for us very soon.

Note to viewers: Some might think only Latinos were in the audience for this panel. However, this was not the case. In fact, the majority of people in the audience were non-Latinos.


The Arizonian said...

I don't find the guests that strange of bedfellows.

I believe many in the "Tea Party" movement agree that there needs to be some change, after all their biggest argument is that so many are coming here outside of the tax system, and becoming "ghosts" within our economy and public support system.

They may disagree with the details though, I admit that.

The racists aside (who are completely biased and illogical) most people are willing and striving for some solution and parity.

There is also a HUGE problem with Mexico's government not providing the documents that WE require for a visa, the corruption and racism in Mexico against the 'native' population (ever notice the physical attributes of their leaders/media personalities?)etc......

I have a saying:
"The Mexicans are traveling, working and fighting for a better life; unfortunately, they are going north instead of their capitol."

ultima said...

I think most who are interested in this subject are well-informed about sb 1070 and support it as necessary in the absence of federal enforcement of immigration laws. Some speak of the "enforcement only" approach of the federal government but from another perspective it is clear that the laws are not being enforced. The best evidence of this is the 12 million illegals present in the U.S. If the law was being enforced, they would not be here. Therefore any argument about "enforcement only" has no validity.

ultima said...

Venegas, like everyone else,has an ax to grind. He focuses on the optimum deployiment of police resources. That position is understandable since his performance was probably evaluated based on the crime and apprehension rates in Sacramento. He would not be so dependent on info from the ethnic communities if those communities were limited to legal residents and citizens. In other words, the fewer illegals present, the less the reason for ethnics to be reluctant to report crimes and cooperate with the police.

I think most people would not expect the police to go out of their way to apprehend illegals. There expectation even under the Arizona law would be that if, in the normal course of the performance of their duties, the police encounter people who cannot prove their bona fides,they simply refer them to ICE or the nearest detention facility. If there are enough such facilities, this should not take an inordinate amount of police time. The delivery of the illegals to detention facilities could even be accomplish by police auxiliaries or volunteer drivers. The point is there are some things the police could do through their own initiative to minimize the impact of their immigration responsibilities on their primary mission. Admittedly,the feds should have the primary role but in the absence of adequate numbers of ICE agents, there is no alternative but to depend on the support of local authorities.

ultima said...

It is rather clear that Venegas has a narrow interest in keeping local law enforcement out of the immigration business rather than the broader interest in what is good for the nation as a whole.

The panel discussions were self-serving and of little import because the panels did not have balanced representation from both the pros and the cons. The panelists were just preaching to the choir and not really coming to grips with the chasm between the pro-America movement and the pro-illegal movement.

ultima said...

Taking the discussion of immigration reform out of the larger context of what is best for America is unfortunate. Apparently there was no discussion of what effect CIR (amnesty) would have on future border violations, population growth, increased energy and natural resource demands, pollution,crime and corruption. No one stood up and said, "Hey,this can't go on forever without adversely affecting our standard of living and quality of life. What level of population is the tipping point that puts America on the downward slope where our children and grandchildren will have a lesser quality of life than we have enjoyed. In other words, the panels seemed to be unable to take the long view and examine where all of this will ultimately lead.

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