The "ANTI" Hate groups are advocating a race war between Latinos and Blacks. These groups include Nazis (NSM), White Nationalists, Numbers USA, alipac.us, Stormfront, Minutemen, and more. These groups use this as a means to gain supporters, rile their troops and to raise funds-donations for their causes. As an example, the ANTI groups targetted a story about lunchroom fights breaking out in an LA High School. What is interesting about these ANTI spins of news articles is, they do not discuss any of the unrest that has been occurring in schoolrooms across the nation such as Columbine. Instead, they target a lunchroom fight in LA where both Blacks and Latinos are in the majority and try to insinuate and instigate a battle between the two minority groups.
When these ANTI groups disagree with the media reports, they say the MSM is "sanitizing" the news reports.
Statements from ANTI leaders include:
. The AP Sanitized the story again! They always do this! This was not a gang fight this was a race riot!
. Race Riot in LA! AP Censors the truth again!
. It appears this story was contained to California and the AP put out the article above that omitted the black vs latino information.
. Very interesting development here folks. It appears this story was contained to California and the AP put out the article above that omitted the black vs latino information.
. The AP Sanitized the story again! They always do this! This was not a gang fight this was a race riot!
. Race Riot in LA! AP Censors the truth again!
. It appears this story was contained to California and the AP put out the article above that omitted the black vs latino information.
. Very interesting development here folks. It appears this story was contained to California and the AP put out the article above that omitted the black vs latino information.
. This is how the monopoly media manipulates the news, ostensibly they keep their credibility by reporting the whole story only after the watered down version makes the BIG splash
What these ANTI sites do not realize is, Blacks and Latinos have been partners since the Civil Rights Movement and continue to maintain close political and personal relationships. Besides, why would these two minority groups fight when they both realize this would play right into the ANTIs agenda?
As Chris Rock said on a recent HBO Special, "I know they (ANTIs) want us to side with them against the Mexicans, but WE know once they (ANTIs) get rid of them, WE are next!"
To all my readers: I will continue to watch and monitor these ANTI websites and keep you apprised of their agendas.
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What a crock of crap, dee! There are no anti groups advocating a race war between Blacks and Hispanics. Columbine was far more publicized than the L.A. incident. There was and is no partnership between Blacks and Latinos during the Civil Rights Era or now either. Have you and yours no shame hanging on the coatails of the plight of Black citizens?
There is a lot of unrest between Blacks and Latinos on our school grounds here in Calif. Latinos are pushing Blacks out of their neighborhoods and jobs. The resentment there is of it's own doing, not any anti's doing.
What a hateful, racist and untruthful remark that Chris Rock made and you have the gaul and the indeceny to carry on with that remark as it it were true to demonize White people? Words can't experess how much you made me sick with your blatant racism against White people and spreading such outrageous lies about them. Just when I thought you couldn't stoop any lower, you do.
The LA Times reported this was a fight between blacks and latinos and said it started when 10 blacks and 10 1atinos agreed to meet and fight at a prescribed time and that escalated into a full blown riot of 600 students. The police ended up segregating the blacks and latinos into separate parts of the school in order to stop the violence.
Are you saying the LA Times is not reporting the truth?
Do you even know what "ANTI" means? Try looking it up! Anti: –noun, plural -tis. a person who is opposed to a particular practice, party, policy, action, etc. Prep., Opposed to; against.
How do you figure we can be "HATE sites" and also "ANTI Hate groups" at the same time?
Thank you for the compliment though, as yes, we are "opposed" to racist hate groups!
"ALIPAC enjoys the support of Americans from many different racial and ethnic backgrounds. We are Americans United to fight illegal immigration. Our boards are open to all that share our cause. NO RACISM AND NO RACE BAITING"!!!
From the Augusta Chronicle: "About 65 percent of the 2,600 students enrolled at Locke are Hispanic, and 35 percent are black."
"Victor Wong, an 18-year-old senior, told the Times the melee grew out of a fight two days earlier between two graffiti gangs. He said Hispanic students who are friends of his asked him to participate in a fight planned for Friday that was to pit 10 Hispanic students against 10 black students."
I suppose we made that up so you'd have something to blog about. You need to stick with poetry, or stop writing altogether, especially when you know nothing about what you write about.
Dianne,
Here is what the LA Times reported:
"Sherlock, who said he saw police use pepper spray during the melee, said tensions between African American and Latino students have NOT been a serious problem at the school..
"It's not the way it's portrayed in the media; that's not what it's like at all," said Sherlock, who is black. Another black student, Ronald White, said African American and Latino students commonly divide along ethnic lines but aren't necessarily hostile. "Everybody usually just sticks to themselves," he said."
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What I am saying is as the LA Times reported. Yes there was a fight at the school. Part of it is due to the "is about to be reorganized as a cluster of charter schools run by Green Dot Public Schools, which will take over in July, and some faculty and staff have accused the district of letting the campus drift in its final year as a traditional public school."
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But what I am reporting here is that many of the ANTI sites are drooling over the possibility of a Brown vs Black Race War. (check out the links in the post)
Pat, There are plenty of ANTI groups promoting a Black vs Brown race war. Check out the links I provided.
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You are right. There is plenty of unrest in schools across the US that are much bigger than this fight and much more reported. However, what I am saying is the ANTIs are drooling to provoke a war between Blacks and Browns.
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And finally, NO a war like this will never happen. We have been partners much too long and will continue our relationship.
And YES we did partner through the Civil Rights movement. I was right there, in Michigan, marching with my friends from high school. Me in my mini skirt and peace signs. I am a witness!
Pat, I am about Peace and Unification! As Always!
Dintin, Welcome to my blog. Both PRO and ANTI speak to both sides of the Immigration issue here. You are welcome to post here as long as you keep the discussion Civil.
Long time participators on my blog know and understand the terms PRO and ANTI. PRO and ANTI refer to PRO or ANTI-Comprehensive Immigration Reform.
I do use ANTI as a Noun, as an abbreviated term meaning ANTI CIR individuals or groups. For the title here, I will add "" around the word ANTI.
I recognize your writing style from alleypac. I also visited your website. The reason groups like yours are viewed as hate groups is because of the "The racism. With lightning speed, the debate went from anti-illegal immigrant to anti-immigrant to anti-Mexican." (quote from Ruben Navarette on your site)
Dim,
Why is it you alleycatters drool over the possibility of a brown-black race war.
Your wish wont come true!
Read your own article.
"tensions between African American and Latino students have NOT been a serious problem at the school..
"It's not the way it's portrayed in the media; that's not what it's like at all," said Sherlock"
Dee,
No one has to promote violence between Latinos and blacks, it comes naturally. In the beautiful melting pot of Los Angeles we see this all the time. Compton used to be majority black, but now it is majority Latino. There is a lot of racial/ethnic tension there and it has nothing to do with whites. The blacks and Latinos in Compton did not mix together. Why Dee? According to your theory, the blacks and Latinos in Compton should have been happy to live close together and intermarry. But they didn't. Why? Could it be that your theory is a hopeless liberal fantasy?
Dee,
"Nazis (NSM), White Nationalists, Numbers USA, alipac.us, Stormfront, Minutemen"
This is such insanity. There is a huge difference between the groups you mention.
Category I (complete lunatics):
1. NSM (American Nazi party).
2. Stormfront.
3. Most white nationalists.
Category II (sane immigration restriction):
1. NumbersUSA
2. ALIPAC.
Category III (doing nothing but sitting on the border watching illegals cross):
1. Minutemen.
Category IV (preserving and defending ethnic Americans):
1. Liberal white nationalism.
Since I want to preserve diversity and have no interest in hating Jews, Latinos, or anyone else, I am in category IV.
You, on the other hand, are in category I, because you want to force your highly untraditional and radical program of ethnic mixing onto the American population. Goals are different, but the methods and radicalness is similar.
Again dee, (and I read ALL of the links) you are spreading propoganda and lies about anti's opposed to illegal immigration as wanting a race war between Blacks and Latinos.
I never read ONE comment whereby anyone said they WANTED a race war. All they said is the news media is covering up the truth about the tensions between Blacks and Lationos in our schools and neighborhoods. It is a FACT that this is happening in Calif. anyway.
You have absolutely no shame, do you?
I have seen plenty of comments at ALIPAC and other sites that absolutely drool for a race war.
ALIPAC has become progressivly more and more racist. Now they are adding anti semitism to the mix with comments like this (from a thread about Jews):
They don't need you they have the US gov. at their beckon call!!!!
No matter that they spy on us, kill our servicemen, hide their weapons programs and have NO bill of rights!!!
They are the slickest con artists in the world. When the Laraza folks declare some of the Southwest their own "independent state" I wonder if they will be as successful in the "con"???
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-114768.html
Gosh Pat, you are changing your tune from an earlier post.
Beyond the message from W about the "race war" here is a whole thread dedicated to drooling about the possibility of a race war:
"No surprise there. Black and mexicans have long hated each other and if IA's continue to steal their jobs and shoot at them just because of thier skin color-it's only gonna get worse."
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"My son will be 30 on 25 May, that puts him in HS approximately 15 years ago I remember his natural apprehension of going to High school with the illegals. I also heard of the gangs of illegals in Greeley Colorado. Now it has reached the boiling point. The media can try to cover it up for another 7 months but I think with the internet they are pissing in the WIND. You go ALIPAC!!"
more drooling and lusting for race war:
"I don't know about you folks, but I got this gut feeling that this is going to be a "hot" summer. I have already heard of things like this accruing in the Chicago area. They were smaller in scale then this story. But anything big that keeps recurring in LA would just set off other parts of the country including Chicago."
more drooling and lusting from the ANTIs:
"It's only a matter of time before a race riot too big to be downplayed by the media starts."
Look at these "ANTI" haters attempting to stir the pot:
"This morning on the news they said the whole thing started when one latino student punched a black student!"
They are just awful!!! shame on them!
They figure if there is a race war between blacks and latinos, then they will have both of their enemies out of the picture.
I think Chris Rock was right!
More anger from the "ANTI" zealots:
"Only 4 arrested in a fight of more than 600??? Everyone of those involved should be ID'd, possibly jailed and kicked out of the school"
OMG Hran,
When I read your statement below, I just got a visual of your drool. Since you are very open about your White Nationalism, you are representing your own well.
Hran said:
No one has to promote violence between Latinos and blacks, it comes naturally. In the BEAUTIFUL melting pot of Los Angeles we see this all the time.
Keep exposing the migrant hate online Dee!
Thank you Kyle! I will!
dee, I read the whole Alipac thread and I never read or felt any drooling in them, they were just discussing the facts and that is that there is racial tension between Blacks and Latinos, especially in L.A. Stating that FACT does not equate to "drooling" about a race war. You amaze me how you twist and spin everybody's remarks to fit your agenda.
There is no "migrant" hate, kyle. Only an oppostion to illegal immigration. Why are pro-illegals such liars?
Not one of your quotes in any way indicated a "drool" or an advocation of a race war, dee. NOT ONE! They were only discussing the facts and rumors of this L.A. incident. They were also discussing the racial tension between Blacks and Latinos and what could happen down the road. That doesn't equate to drool or advocacy. You are completely shameless!
Pat,
Drooling, as beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.
I will let the alleypackers words stand for themselves.
I believe their agenda is obvious!
What was written:
"No surprise there. Black and mexicans have long hated each other and if IA's continue to steal their jobs and shoot at them just because of thier skin color-it's only gonna get worse."
You read:
"No surprise there!!! Those (bleep) Black and mexicans have always hated each other and if IA's continue to steal their (bleep) jobs we'll just shoot at them just because of thier (bleep) skin color-I hope it gets (bleep) worse."
What was written:
"I don't know about you folks, but I got this gut feeling that this is going to be a "hot" summer. I have already heard of things like this accruing in the Chicago area. They were smaller in scale then this story. But anything big that keeps recurring in LA would just set off other parts of the country including Chicago."
You read:
"I don't know about you folks, but I got this gut feeling we can make this a (bleep) "hot" summer! I have already heard of things like this accruing in the Chicago area....what do you say we start it here! They were smaller in scale then this (bleep) story but we can make it the story of the century!!!! (Bleep!!)anything big that keeps recurring in LA we can spread all over the country all the way to Chicago!!!
What was written:
"It's only a matter of time before a race riot too big to be downplayed by the media starts."
You read:
"C'mon guys! It's only a matter of (bleep) time!! A (bleep) race riot is too big to be downplayed!! Think of the media!!"
My point? There is an obvious distinction between an "opinion" of what's been reported and an "instigating" of what you wish.
Who's the real instigator? When someone uses "Race War" in their headline, you know google is going to pick it up...
dee, most of those groups you labled as "hate sites" are not that at all regardless of what the SPL (or whatever they are called) says either. The whole title of this topic is so full of lies and pro-illegal propaganda, it makes my head reel.
Nope not one drooler nor one advocator of a race war, dee. Only in your biased ethnocentric mind. You would do and say anything to demonize an American opposed to illegal immigration, wouldn't you?
Dim,
I copy and pasted from the verbiage. I did not add one or change one word. So much for your theory.
Additionally, you and your group are the instigators. The latest drool "yea, this cat is out of the bag now!" when he is drooling over the possibility of more sites suggesting Race War on his yahoo search.
So why do you search "Race War" Dim?
What the ANTI sites Dont want you to see!
LA Times 5-11 (yesterday):
"More than 400 parents, students and community leaders rallied at Crenshaw High School on Saturday in a UNITY event that took on added urgency after a student melee Friday at another South Los Angeles school.
The group formed a MASSIVE PRAYER CIRCLE on the school football field, joining hands with ministers and police officers in a sign of support for Crenshaw students. A local bishop led them in prayer."
More on the Black and Brown prayer circle in LA:
The rally was spearheaded by the Los Angeles Urban League and its Neighborhood@Work initiative, launched last year to support the high school and neighborhood. Several teenagers at the event said they were impressed by the large showing.
"I didn't think there would be so many people. I feel like there are a lot of people who are into this community," said Melina Resto, 13, a student at the Los Angeles Center for Enriched Studies who attended the rally with her cousin, Chanell Nealon, 16, a Crenshaw junior.
"It made me feel that people really care about this school," Chanell said.
More from the LA Times:
Willis Edwards, a board member for the National Assn. for the Advancement of Colored People, said that he found the Locke melee "very painful" and that the community needs to reach out to Locke students.
"We need to all come together," Edwards said.
"OMG Hran,
When I read your statement below, I just got a visual of your drool."
I don't know how you got this way, Dee, but you are a perfect embodiment of certain aspects of PC liberalism combined with brown supremacism.
I notice you did not answer Patriot's analysis of the situation: the racially intermixed America you envision would be non-white. Thus, whites would disappear. That's exactly what we whites don't want to happen. At least you confirm our fears that this is an agenda of the pro-immigration side. You are open in your brown nationalism.
The earlier waves of immigration in the U.S. were Europeans. They were assimilated without destroying white America.
And no, I don't "drool" over a race war between Latinos and blacks. I don't even know what a "race war" is. There are incidents. That's not a "war". I'm against violence or causing harm. Your policies, on the other hand, will lead to more strife, chaos, discord, violence, higher crime rates, etc.
Hran,
When I speak of racially intermixed America, I note that our nation has evolved with each new group of immigrants. Think of the wave of Irish, German that Teddy Roosevelt was opposed to coming in. They intermixed and our civilization evolved. Think of the Italians, Asians and Eastern, Southern European waves of immigrants. More evolution. Think of the Civil Rights and Womens Rights movement. This resulted in more intermarriages and more evolution. We continue to evolve. We are not the same race as the Pilgrims. We haven´t been since the 1800s.
How will we end up? As always, Better!
We will end up Mexico #2! Not one group has invaded this country like the Mexicans have. There are limits to the amount of people that are allowed in from each country so that not one nationality (Mexican) dominates our culture. Why don't you understand this?
Dee said... "I copy and pasted from the verbiage. I did not add one or change one word. So much for your theory."
You "copied and pasted" what was written, as I did, but your headline reads: "HATE Sites Advocating Race War between Latinos and Blacks!" also, "The "ANTI" Hate groups are advocating a race war between Latinos and Blacks."
So, I ask (again) where is the advocating? If you see anyone attempting to gather forces, arm themselves, or otherwise prepare for battle, please point this out to me, or at least provide a link, other than the SPLC or La Raza; the only hate groups doing any promoting of racial tension.
dee, just the fact that these parents felt the need to form a "prayer circle" shows that these parents know that there is a problem with racial tension in our schools.
dee, it all depends on "how much" racial and ethnic mixing you are advocating for. I am ok with some but not the entire nation mixing. As this will eliminate the White race in this country. Also, are you just advocating this for just our country or do you want the whole planet to do this? Why would you want to destroy the differences among the races and ethnic groups and yet you keep screaming multi-culturism? Your desires are in direct contrast with one another.
Anon,
What you fail to understand is, my family has been here over 200 years as have millions of families across the Southwest. We are Many Latino citizens and many Native Americans. We have never moved. We have always lived here.
Anon,
what you may be referencing is, since the Reagan amnesty, we have a surge of new illegal immigrants, 60% Latino.
It takes a generation to assimilate. Give them this generation. They too will assimilate.
Pat,
The prayer circle, which was already scheduled, just goes to show you that there are concerned parents who care about their children in their neighborhood and they all do just want to get along with each other. We have inner city unrest throughout the country. Some of this is due to poverty and other issues.
Din,
Advocate = to speak or write in favor or support of
All the quotes from your site I posted clearly are advocating a race war.
These final words from your fearless leader say it all "yea, this cat is out of the bag now!"
You are pushing propoganda and lies, dee. I read every single one of the remarks you provided and nothing remotely could be construed as "drooling or advocation of a race war". As I said, you will say and do anything to demonize the anti-illegals.
you see the desperation of dintn in his/her little explanation of: "here's what's typed, and here's what you saw Dee." how stupid was that, showing your true colors dintn.
Dee is revealing the truth about ANTI's and RACIST'S frothing at the mouth about how they would LOVE a race war and Dee is showing us PROOF yet you would rather point out YOUR views instead of looking at the proof, THE PROOF IS THERE, read the posts
Dee, thank you for exposing the truth
anon1, I read all of the posts. It is only you and dee reading stuff into them that isn't there! I saw no proof of what you two are claiming! None, nada!
Poor Pat, You are getting desperate.
Anyone reading their site can clearly see they would be extremely happy if a brown vs black race war began.
Just look on page 3, at the words of their fearless leader when he said "yea, this cat is out of the bag now!"
So very obvious!
No, you are the one who is desperate dee to read things into people's words that are not there!
If someone said "the cat is out of the bag", they meant that hiding the racial tension between Blacks and Latinos can no longer be hidden by the media and our government. Where is the drooling in that statement or the advocation of a race war? You see how you twist people's words to suit your agenda? Stating facts isn't drooling or advocation of an action. How pathetic!
dee, you are full of bullcrap.
Back in 1848 when the Mexican-American war was fought, what is now the Southwest U.S. was very sparsely populated with Native American tribes, some Spanish ranchers, and Catholic missions. There were NOT "millions" of Hispanic families! Are you NUTS! There weren't millions of ANY kinds of families!
The illegals who are coming here now are from Central/Southern Mexico and Central/South America! They were NOT the original inhabitants of the Southwest! Give me a break, dee!
What is important to remember is the Community is meeting to discuss their school issues and looking to partner in healing as a community. I think that is good! (No such thing as Race War for them!)
Poor Pat,
What you dont understand is generations and growth. Back in the early 1800s, my great grandfather moved to TX. It was only him. Then he met his wife. They had 11 children.
My grandfather met and married his wife. They had 8 children. (his siblings did about the same)
My father met my mother. They had 10 children. (his siblings did about the same)
My 9 siblings and I have between 2 and 10 children each. Most of us have grandchildren. Some have great grandchildren.
My family is like so many families in the Southwest. Back in the early 1800´s, there were a few thousand famiilies that multiplied and grew over the generations from two people in the 1800´s to thousands of people generations later.
2 in 1800s = thousands in 2000s
thousands in 1800s = millions in 2000s
Now do you get it Pat?
Dee said... "It takes a generation to assimilate. Give them this generation. They too will assimilate."
Here's some reference for you:
"First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same.... Secondly, the ethnic mix will not be upset…. Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area." - Ted Kennedy (D-MA) assuring voters in 1965 that the passage of the Immigration Act could not change America's ethnic balance.
Washington, May 21 - "This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1-1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We well never again bring forward another Amnesty Bill like this." - Senator Ted Kennedy, (D-MA) referring to the 1986 Amnesty Bill.
1965? 1986?
How many more generations must we give them?
"They too will assimilate."? Who are the others?
There's not much evidence to support that many of them have assimilated, as can be seen with every sob story about a "family split up" and the parent has to have a translator for the media (20-30 years here and still don't speak English?) As anyone can easily see the failure to assimilate is the biggest complaint among anti-illegal immigration groups, crime being the second.
The American people are not going to be fooled again. I hope.
I have respect for anyone coming here, the correct way, whether it be 200 years ago or yesterday. Illegal immigration, to me, and almost entirely everyone I know is not an issue of black, white, brown, Latino, Chinese or any other race or ethnicity. I am a member of ALIPAC, numbersusa, FAIR, etc. and it just doesn't matter to me what color/race anyone else is. I can't see through my monitor...in fact I didn't even notice the "Mexican American" part of your website, at first.
NO! You are wrong. It would NEVER make me happy to see a "race war", "gang war" or any other display of violence, in our schools or in our streets. I have 8 Grandchildren, from college age down to a year old. God forbit one of mine (or any one elses child) be harmed in any way due to this invasion and attempted take over of our country by people who have no respect for our laws. I would gladly give my life to save one of mine from harm. Most members of ALIPAC also have children/ Grandchildren and I can tell you from my association with them, they feel the same way.
Btw, please don't assume I search "race war". My search word is "immigration", period.
PEACE :)
Yeah, I get it dee. How many of those Hispanics came here illegally in the past 30 years? I have nothing against Hispanic citizens and even if there are 35 million of you, there are 260 million non-hispanics in this country today. So I don't really care about your past history as it is irrelevant to today and irrelevant as to what the traditional culture of this country is.
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