Mexico is in trouble! Border Town murders are escalating. In 2008, 1,600 were slain in just one town, Juarez. During the first 12 days of 2009, more than 35 were murdered in Juarez, all due to drug trafficking. As I previously reported, the U.S. continues to lead the world in illegal drug use and also sends 2,000 illegal weapons to Mexico each day. Mexico is sending 2000 fresh troops to Juarez to help quell the violence. Now, the U.S. Joint Forces Command says Mexico is on the verge of collapse due to these drug cartels.
President Obama met with Mexico's President on Monday and plans a second meeting later this month. Two topics include the U.S. helping Mexico with the Border Drug War and stopping the illegal weapons flow back into Mexico. It is clear a joint plan needs to be put in place to resolve these issues.
The El Paso Times reports:
U.S. military report warns 'sudden collapse' of Mexico is possible
EL PASO - Mexico is one of two countries that "bear consideration for a rapid and sudden collapse," according to a report by the U.S. Joint Forces Command on worldwide security threats. The command's "Joint Operating Environment (JOE 2008)" report, which contains projections of global threats and potential next wars, puts Pakistan on the same level as Mexico. "In terms of worse-case scenarios for the Joint Force and indeed the world, two large and important states bear consideration for a rapid and sudden collapse: Pakistan and Mexico. The Mexican possibility may seem less likely, but the government, its politicians, police and judicial infrastructure are all under sustained assault and press by criminal gangs and drug cartels. How that internal conflict turns out over the next several years will have a major impact on the stability of the Mexican state. Any descent by Mexico into chaos would demand an American response based on the serious implications for homeland security alone."
The report is one in a series focusing on Mexico's internal security problems, mostly stemming from drug violence and drug corruption. In recent weeks, the Department of Homeland Security and former U.S. drug czar Barry McCaffrey issued similar alerts about Mexico.
Despite such reports, El Pasoan Veronica Callaghan, a border business leader, said she keeps running into people in the region who "are in denial about what is happening in Mexico." Last week, Mexican President Felipe Calderon instructed his embassy and consular officials to promote a positive image of Mexico.
2,000 fresh troops sent to Juárez as violence continues
The Mexican army has sent an estimated 2,000 troops to Juárez as part of a rotation even as the death toll surpassed 35 so far this year. Two men were killed Tuesday evening, shot multiple times in separate attacks in which nearly 70 rounds were fired. About 5 p.m., Hector Ramiro Guardado Pereira, 34, was slain in colonia Infonavit Tecnologico, said Chihuahua state police. Investigators counted 40 casings of three calibers.
About 10 minutes later, Agapito Aguirre Leyva, 36, was shot in the 1500 block of Acuario, where 29 casings of three calibers were found, police said. Tuesday morning, Guillermo Pizarro Marceleño, 35, died at a hospital after being shot inside El Trebol restaurant on Avenida 16 de Septiembre, police said.
Three unidentified men were killed Monday. In one case, a man, who had a gag on his mouth and an electrical cord tied to a wrist and who might have been stabbed, shot and run over by a vehicle, was found at about 9:30 p.m. on Viaducto Diaz Ordaz road west of downtown, police said. The other two slayings were a man with a plastic bag taped over his head found in a vacant lot in the Parajes del Sur area and a blindfolded man with several stab wounds to his torso found in a ditch in colonia Insurgentes, police said. Soldiers who arrived in Juárez on Monday are part of a regular rotation of troops sent to different parts of Mexico, the Norte newspaper reported. Last year, more 1,600 people were slain in Juárez.
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The violence is so bad that the O'odham tribal leaders discouraged its members from making their annual pilgrimage to northern Mexico for the San Francisco Xavier Festival.
I am not one of the regular anonymous posters.
New Anon,
Welcome!
You can name yourself and still remain anonymous.
I would like you to tell us more about any more first hand information you may have about the Border violence.
Az,
I agree. Something is going to happen. The cartels are out of control, both in the US and in Mexico.
In the US, the gangs have converged including the Italian Mafia as well as the American street gangs. American drug use is out of control too.
What the border patrol should be most concerned about is the flow of weapons back into Mexico. 2,000 a day! How is that possible!
Az,
What are you thinking the reasons are?
The Arizonian said...
I also find it interesting that Mexico is in parity with Pakistan as 'countries likely to collapse'.
Coincidence?
Prophecy : Obama won't kick out 12 million Latinos( Illegal Immigrants )
Reasons : Economic, Politic, Historical
The Economic Reason :
The American Economy is a snake, it ate a rabbit called "Baby Boom", that Rabbit fed the Economy Snake for many years, the parents of Baby Boomers killed themselves working to provide homes, cars, bicycles, roller skates, vacations and education for their boomer Children, during the 1950s and 1960s.
These baby boomers ( most of them White ) started to work in the 1960s and 1970s and they worked until now. It is time for retirement and if they continue working, then their brain cells are ageing, and are not so creative, energetic, inventive or modern as in previous decades.
The Economic Recession ( that may be longer than expected ) will force the Baby Boomers to stay working.
But when they retire there is a problem. The birth rate of White People is very low and not enough for replacement of the Retiring White Workers. Enter Minorities and the problem is solved.
But If you kick out the Minorities, or dislodge, expulse or evict them, Then who is going to work in the Future to provide for The Big Deficits of America in the Trillions of Dollars ????. And the Health Care Deficits and Wrong Budgets that are going to be defeated by millions of Old People ???
Who is going to pay for those big deficits and who is going to sustain the Very Old Population of Mostly Whites ???
You pay working and earning money to pay taxes. You have to be young.
I have many more Reasons of a Political, Historical and Moral Nature for these assessments and appraisals. Here :
Prophesizing.com
Milenials.com
Vicente Duque
Our ideal population numbers and goals should not include replacing the baby boomers in the first place. We need fewer people in this country. Replacing baby boomers with immigrants just means another baby boomer generation making demands on our retirement funds and everything else that is required to sustain the human race.
We can deal with a smaller economy with enough legal immigrants to support it if needed, and we should.
No one is talking about kicking out minorities, only those who are here illegally.
There are a lot more things more important than money and an overbloated economy that requires more humans stashed in one area along with the demands to sustain them.
Duque wrote, "Prophecy : Obama won't kick out 12 million Latinos( Illegal Immigrants )
Reasons : Economic, Politic, Historical"
You left out the pandering he did during the election. The fertility rate of American women is just about at the replacement level 2.0-2.1 so the problem is not as big as you suggest. Besides the Japanese will solve this problem for us by inventing robots to do all the work, including caring for the aged based on voice commands.
The reason Obama won't kick them out is the same spinelessness that has paralyzed the Congress in the past. Most know what the right thing to do is but cannot avoid the lobbyists, special interest groups, and fundraisers who threaten those who don't toe the line.
Of course, some of us have said all along that the National Guard should be deployed at the border on a rotating basis with the same authority as the Border Patrol but with improved rules of engagement to make them really effective.
This problem would not exist if we had secure borders and the full cooperation of the Mexican government in stopping all illegals and drug mules from crossing the border. Instead we put Ramos and Campean in prison. What message did that send to the drug lords?
The trillions of dollars of debt: maybe we should just declare bankuptcy. Then no foreign country would ever lend to us again and we could begin to live within our means and reconstruct our industrial and manufacturing capability.
E-verify, repatriation, hot pursuit, lethal force, a major reduction of vehicular and pedestrian traffic at the border crossings, biometric ids,detach all trailers at the border and re-attache to American tractors.
Prompt execution of all drug lord based on summary courts martial.
Duque wrote, "But If you kick out the Minorities, or dislodge, expulse or evict them, Then who is going to work in the Future to provide for The Big Deficits of America in the Trillions of Dollars ????. And the Health Care Deficits and Wrong Budgets that are going to be defeated by millions of Old People ???"
No one expects all to be repatriated but if we began with the least productive, those who have displaced Americans willing to work at a living wage, those who have been here the least amount of time, etc. we could begin to send a message to the more benign illegals and this in turn would enable us to focus more of our attention on the sophisticated smugglers and murderers. As long as we tolerate illegals of any kind the message to human and drug traffickers will remain one of weakness.
Of course we will militarize the border if necessary. Obama cannot let the violence spill into the U.S. and he won't. The border may be long, but it's a single line defined in inches. Easy to defend if the will is there.
Ultima,
The problem is the Border Patrol and the National Guard are focused on catching little grandmas who sew or AgWorkers. They are not focused on catching and stopping the Drug Dealers, the Cartels, the 2000 Guns flowing into Mexico, Felonious Criminals who harbor terror. They are so out of focus and chasing the day laborers and shooting them in the butt when they should be spending their time and enery chasing the crooks!
ultima said...
Of course, some of us have said all along that the National Guard should be deployed at the border on a rotating basis with the same authority as the Border Patrol but with improved rules of engagement to make them really effective.
I challenge Sheriff Arpaio to stop chasing the workers and start chasing the Drug Dealers and those that send in 2000 weapons into Mexico a DAY!!!!
I think he is afraid to chase the real criminals. He would prefer to get his name in the paper.
How in the world would the Border Patrol know by looking at someone what their intention is for entering our country? They aren't there to ask questions, they are there to prevent illegal entry, period!
Little grandma's sewing...lol. Anything to try to gain sympathy for those entering our country illegally, right?
Technology leads the way! We do not live in the middle ages. The BP and Arpaio have the tools available to them to pursue the Cartels, the Felonious criminals. Many learned men have said so, including Mayor Gordon and others!
They need to focus on the Drug Lords, Cartels, Felonious Criminals! Stop focusing on the workers! Take away the criminal element. Stop chasing the CAMERA!!! Stop seeking your 15 minutes of Fame!!! Target the criminals and the weapons and do your job and keep us safe!!
We know this is tough and hard and not easy! But Arpaio and his crew need to focus on THEM and bring THEM to Justice!
Dont focus on the crop pickers or grandmothers or people who drive while brown!!! Focus on the Cartels! Focus on the REAL Criminals! Dont Be Afraid Sheriff Arpaio! Stop going after the grannies!!! Start chasing the criminals AND the Weapons that are the real culprits!!
They need to focus on ALL of those trying to enter our country illegally. That is what there job is! They can't tell if someone is a criminal or not just by looking at them. They can't tell by just lookiing at someone if they are carrying drugs (grannie could be harboring drugs in her sewing basket). They can't tell just by lookiing at someone if they are a terroirt or not. That is why they have to stop ALL illegal entry. Even if someone is entering to pluck chickens, it is against the law to enter our country illegally. What part of that don't you get?
They need to focus on the Drug Lords, Cartels, Felonious Criminals!
Stop focusing on the workers! Take away the criminal element. Stop chasing the CAMERA!!! Stop seeking your 15 minutes of Fame!!! Target the criminals and the weapons and do your job and keep us safe!!
In Napolitano's confirmation hearing today Claire McCaskill (D-Mo) stated her absolute belief that Homeland Security must focus on the employers and Napolitano agreed saying she had to get assurances from the Justice Dept that they are ready to prosecute and she would work towards that goal. She doesnt believe in the fence except in urban areas.
I see you avoided my question Dee about how would the Border Patrol know just by looking at someone entering illegally if they are a drug runner, criminal or terrorist or entering to work illegally in our country? Your non-answer tells all.
Anon,
I do ignore ludicrous questions.
Have you ever heard of technology? Investigations? Stings? Research? Welcome to the New Millenium! This is not the 1950s.
If you studied, you would know that while Arpaio focuses on racial profiling neighborhoods, others PDs focus their energies on capturing criminals.
Here is what the Goldwater Institute says about Arpaios tactics:
“The Maricopa County Sheriff ’s Offi ce is responsible for vitally important law-enforcement functions in one of the largest counties in the nation. It defi nes its core missions as law-enforcement services, support services, and detention.
MCSO falls seriously short of fulfilling its mission in all three areas. Although MCSO is adept at self-promotion and is an unquestionably “tough” law-enforcement agency, under its watch violent crime rates recently have soared, both in absolute terms and relative to other jurisdictions. It has diverted resources away from basic law-enforcement functions to highly publicized immigration sweeps, which are ineffective in policing illegal immigration and in reducing crime generally, and to extensive trips by MCSO officials to Honduras for purposes that are nebulous at best. Profligate spending on those diversions helped produce a financial crisis in late 2007 that forced MCSO to
curtail or reduce important law-enforcement functions.
In terms of support services, MCSO has allowed a huge backlog of outstanding warrants to accumulate, and has seriously disadvantaged local police departments by closing satellite booking facilities. MCSO’s detention facilities are subject to costly lawsuits for excessive use of force and inadequate medical services. Compounding the substantive problems are chronically poor record-keeping and reporting of statistics, coupled with resistance to public disclosure.”
BPs and PDs should focus on the CRIMINAL ELEMENT. Utilize Technology! Capture the Drug Lords, Cartels, Felonious Gangs, stop the weapons flow back into Mexico from the US.
YOUR 1st Mission is to keep up SAFE!!
NOT RACIAL PROFILE!
NOT Target Workers!
STICK TO FELONIOUS CRIMINALS, Especially Drug Cartels!!
Illegal Drugs!
Illegal Weapons!
@ Dee
"NOT Target Workers!
STICK TO FELONIOUS CRIMINALS"
Those 'workers' (Deportable Aliens) who have purchased and used work documents, i.e. SS Cards, Green Cards, Drivers Licenses, etc, ARE Felonious Criminals. Arpaio has cleared many warrants with his checkpoints.
The Border Patrol sees someone trying to cross our border illegally. Are they supposed to ask them "are you a criminal, a terrorist or a drug runner"? If so, do you actually think they will tell them the truth? Or are they going to say, "no I am just here looking for work"? Get real, will you? You still didn't answer that question.
As the Goldwater Institute said:
MCSO falls seriously short of fulfilling its mission in all three areas. Although MCSO is adept at self-promotion and is an unquestionably “tough” law-enforcement agency, under its watch violent crime rates recently have soared, both in absolute terms and relative to other jurisdictions. It has diverted resources away from basic law-enforcement functions to highly publicized immigration sweeps, which are ineffective in policing illegal immigration and in reducing crime generally, and to extensive trips by MCSO officials to Honduras for purposes that are nebulous at best. Profligate spending on those diversions helped produce a financial crisis in late 2007 that forced MCSO to
curtail or reduce important law-enforcement functions.
Another question I have asked over and over and I get no answer is should law enforcement not seek out thieves because there are more serious crimes being commited such as rape and murder? If that were the case then we would find a lot mroe thieves roaming around our country. As long as something is against the law, law enforcement are paid to go after ALL criminals.
Anon,
What you refuse to understand and accept is this is a civil violation. Other civil violations include you not having your certificate of insurance in your car. Shall I call you an illegal for the rest of your life for failing to having your proof of insurance in your car? Shall I caste you in the same light as a murderer, thief or sexual predator? I think not!!
Yeah yeah yeah Ultima, You sir are a nativist fool with those idiotic comments!
A world without Mexicans? I bet that is your wet dream every night isn't it you True Patriotic American piece of donkey dung!
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