Sunday, April 6, 2008

e-Verify Flaws

AZ Bill 2779, effective Jan. 1, 2008, requires mandatory E-Verify participation for ALL new employees hired!

FLAWS WITH E-VERIFY:
"E-Verify has at least one significant flaw – its treatment of naturalized U.S. citizens. Between October 2006 and March 2007 about 3,200 foreign-born U.S. citizens were initially improperly disqualified from working by E-Verify. Their status was later corrected. Because many did not register their citizenship with the Social Security Administration, they are often listed as possible illegal workers.That's what apparently happened to Ochoa, 47, who became a citizen in 2000 but has since lost his naturalization certificate. He quit his job as a car salesman at the end of last year and got hired by a local Dodge dealership in February. Days later, his new employers called him with bad news – E-Verify classified him as a possible illegal immigrant. He only had a couple of days to convince the Social Security agency otherwise.Ochoa took his U.S. passport, Social Security card, driver's license and Arizona voter identification card to the local Social Security office, but was told he'd still have to request new papers from the Department of Homeland Security, which could take up to 10 months."I love this country, I'm happy in this country," said Ochoa, a father of two, who escaped eviction this month only because a church group paid his rent. "The guy who made this law, I don't know him. He's started destroying a lot of families."Katherine Lotspeich, acting chief of the agency that runs E-Verify, said officials will introduce a number of changes, starting in May, to make it easier to fix the problems that Ochoa and other naturalized citizens have encountered."The last thing we want is to have people who are naturalized citizens deal with this cumbersome process," Lotspeich said of the lengthy wait to get proper paperwork. She added that Social Security should have accepted Ochoa's passport as proof of citizenship."

9 comments:

Liquidmicro said...

"Because many did not register their citizenship with the Social Security Administration, they are often listed as possible illegal workers."

It seems the problem is with their not registering and not with E-Verify itself. Your excuse for not using E-Verify is a FALLACY, when it is clearly not E-Verify's fault.

patriot said...

You are right, liquid. Dee never puts the blame where the blame belongs. You don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

E-verify is a very necessary step to take to stop employers from hiring illegal aliens even with a few flaws. It is was is best for this nation but dee doesn't care about that. She is more concerned about her illegal amigos getting fired, therefore she makes up lame excuses. From what I understand there would be a period of time allowed for any employee to clear up any discrepencies in their SS numbers or legal status. Does dee care? Nope! Because bottom line is that she wants the illegals to stay here. Her lying nonsense about wanting the employers sanctioned is all smoke and mirrors because that is one of the things that e-verify will do.

Dee said...

Liquid,
The immigration policies are broken. Why don´t you even attempt to understand this.
The man is legal. ICE themselves say this is a problem that needs to be corrected.
Didn´t you read that part?
And Arpaio doesn´t care. Instead he throws them in his vermin loaded suicide cells that he calls his jails.

Dee said...

eVerify Admits its flaws:
E-Verify has at least one significant flaw – its treatment of naturalized U.S. citizens. Between October 2006 and March 2007 about 3,200 foreign-born U.S. citizens were initially improperly disqualified from working by E-Verify. Their status was later corrected.

dianne said...

Dee, that is a shame concerning the people who were misclassified, but I don't think there's one program our government has instituted that hasn't had problems and needs time to work out. Look at the passport situation last year when hundreds of thousands of people didn't get their passports in time even though they applied in the required timeframe.

Personally, I think we need that national identity card and so all citizens and legal immigrants have it, which is how it is in several other countries. But of course that's being fought tooth and nail too.

patriot said...

dee, Nothing to understand. Our immigration laws aren't broken, they just haven't been enforced and our border's haven't been secured. You are the one who doesn't understand or you refuse to.

dianne, seditionists like dee will always fight tooth and nail to keep our immigration laws from being enforced. They nit pick every detail to find more and more excuses so that their illegal ethnic kind can stay here and continue to flood our borders.

Liquidmicro said...

I am aware the man is "LEGAL", but it is his own fault for not registering with the SS office, thus it is not the fault nor the responsibility of E-Verify or SS to verify his status. It is HIS responsibility to register. How then can our Immigration system be broken? What does Arpaio have to do with this topic?

My wife is going through this right now, she became a Legal Citizen in Jan '08, and still has not regestired with SS, but she will be registering tomorrow.

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B52Bomber said...

Don't blame the victim for flaws in the e-verify system. The blame lies with federal government agencies such as the Social Security Administration and the Department of Justice who do not have compatible computers systems and hence cannot share information. The Department of Justice computer system should have automatically notified the Social Security when a person becomes a naturilized American Citizen. The lack of compatible computer systems among federal agencies was a major factor in why some 9/11 terrorists were not detained at airports. They should NOt have been allowed to board airplanes due to the fact they were on a "no fly" list.

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