Friday, October 9, 2009

Our President and Our Country is Honored by the Nobel Committee!! Meanwhile the Republican Extremists Limbaugh, Beck & Fox Side with Taliban!

President Barack Obama hs been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. The Nobel committee said the award was for Obama's efforts to bring "a new climate in international politics," for which the American leader is "the world's leading spokesman."

Speaking in the White House Rose Garden, President Obama said he was "deeply humbled" by the decision of the Nobel Committee. "I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize — men and women who've inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace. But I also know that this prize reflects the kind of world that those men and women, and all Americans, want to build."

In the meantime, Republican advocates are slitting their wrists and lamenting the award. Treasonous Rush Limbaugh said he is on the side of the terrorist Taliban groups: "Folks, do you realize something has happened here that we all agree with the Taliban and Iran about and that is he doesn't deserve the award. Now that's hilarious, that I'm on the same side of something that the Taliban, and that we all are on the same side as the Taliban." Beck, Bill Krystol, Redstates Erick Erickson, John Bolton, and Fox News all agreed with Limbaugh and the Taliban that Obama was undeserving. These treasonous, traitorous domestic terrorist side with the Taliban in NOT supporting OUR President nor our Great USA! What is WRONG with the Extreme Right Wing that they SIDE with the Terrorists!! Despicable!!


Proletariat Defender said...

I actually found myself agreeing with Michael Moore.... Which puzzled me:
Congratulations President Obama on the Nobel Peace Prize -- Now Please Earn it!

Dear President Obama,

How outstanding that you've been recognized today as a man of peace. Your swift, early pronouncements -- you will close Guantanamo, you will bring the troops home from Iraq, you want a nuclear weapon-free world, you admitted to the Iranians that we overthrew their democratically-elected president in 1953, you made that great speech to the Islamic world in Cairo, you've eliminated that useless term "The War on Terror," you've put an end to torture -- these have all made us and the rest of the world feel a bit more safe considering the disaster of the past eight years. In eight months you have done an about face and taken this country in a much more sane direction.


The irony that you have been awarded this prize on the 2nd day of the ninth year of what is quickly becoming your War in Afghanistan is not lost on anyone. You are truly at a crossroads now. You can listen to the generals and expand the war (only to result in a far-too-predictable defeat) or you can declare Bush's Wars over, and bring all the troops home. Now. That's what a true man of peace would do.

There is nothing wrong with you doing what the last guy failed to do -- capture the man or men responsible for the mass murder of 3,000 people on 9/11. BUT YOU CANNOT DO THAT WITH TANKS AND TROOPS. You are pursuing a criminal, not an army. You do not use a stick of dynamite to get rid of a mouse.

The Taliban is another matter. That is a problem for the people of Afghanistan to resolve -- just as we did in 1776, the French did in 1789, the Cubans did in 1959, the Nicaraguans did in 1979 and the people of East Berlin did in 1989. One thing is certain through all revolutions by people who wish to be free -- they ultimately have to bring about that freedom themselves. Others can be supportive, but freedom can not be delivered from the front seat of someone else's Humvee.

You have to end our involvement in Afghanistan now. If you don't, you'll have no choice but to return the prize to Oslo.

Michael Moore

P.S. Your opposition has spent the morning attacking you for bringing such good will to this country. Why do they hate America so much? I get the feeling that if you found the cure for cancer this afternoon they'd be denouncing you for destroying free enterprise because cancer centers would have to close. There are those who say you've done nothing yet to deserve this award. As far as I'm concerned, the very fact that you've offered to walk into the minefield of hate and try to undo the irreparable damage the last president did is not only appreciated by me and millions of others, it is also an act of true bravery. That's why you got the prize. The whole world is depending on the U.S. -- and you -- to literally save this planet. Let's not let them down.

Dee said...

I agree. MM said it well.

Vicente Duque said...

I knew that Michael Moore is a very intelligent guy, and also very funny, and very sharp, stabbing, caustic against fools and foolishness, and against some people that are worse than fools ( you understand me ) .... This guy is a corrosive, vitriolic acid against Haters, Racists, FearMongers, Right Wing Extremists, etc, etc .... ...

As when he confounded the guys of the National Rifle Associations and their policies of making each home into an Arsenal of Assault Weapons.

What I didn't know was that he was an excellent writer and essayist.

The Whole essay is beautiful, ironic, satiric, but the Post Script is Poetic.

Congratulations Mr President, I love you and Michael too is a blessing for Sanity !!

More about Politics for Sanity, Soundness of Mind, Lucidity, and the cures against Hatred and Madness :

Vicente Duque

concerned American said...

Our country was not honored. The Nobel prize is given to individuals and it is they that are honored. The country they reside in is irrelevant. In this case Obama was honored not the U.S. as a country. Let's keep this in prospective, shall we?

ultima said...

This is a test of Obama's character. He should refuse the prize on the basis that he has no real achievements to justify it. He has only only activities. Or he could ask that the prize be escrowed until he has some real accomplishments to show the world rather than just a few speeches and visits.

The Nobel Prize committee diminished and demeaned the Peace Prize by making this award. The Prize has becme a joke. Scientists and artists often work for 20 years or a lifetime before they are honored for their achievements. Obama has not completed his first year in office. Perhaps the Committee should now begin awarding the prize for medicine to anyone who says he knows how to cure cancer. That person would be equally dserving in comparison with Obama.

Surely among all the nominees for this prize there must have been some who had actually accomplished something. There is a difference between accomplishments and mere activity.

The Committee has not only made the prize a joke but has politicized it in an attempt to influence U.S. foreign policy. The next Peace Prize should go to Osama Bin Laden to balance the Obama award or maybe they should share this one.

ultima said...

Even a terrorist has a right to an opinion and this is apparently one that many will agree with -- Obama has not earned a Nobel Prize. This award is strictly a polical move on the part of the Committee. It has nothing to do with merit.

Proletariat Defender said...

Let's not make this into some convoluted discussion over Organizations or politics please.

It was the second half of the essay in which I agreed the most with: Show us you are a man of peace.

I was first confused about the award considering the nomination process (and all the actions of the nominee) had ended February 1st, 2009. That was 12 days after Obama was sworn in as President of the US. I do believe it was pressure from the international community to help end the madness.

Also, the idea of letting peoples of other countries decide their own fate is not only nobel (no pun intended) but very American. Comparing the Afghans overthrowing the Taliban to the US throwing out the British in the 18th century on our own was very poetic and justified.

Please Mr. President, fulfill our hopes, and own up to what this award, at the very least was, about.

Vicente Duque said...

Very Perturbing : Ed Show Video, Ed Schultz talks with Representative Alan Grayson, Democrat, Florida -Some Male Senators oppose Defending Women against Rape - MSNBC

This Video is very perturbing. Senator Al Franken, Democrat, Minnesota wants to protect Women employed by Defense Contractors against rape - Many Male Republicans oppose the bill.

Gang Raping of Women inside the installations of Contractors.

Representative Alan Grayson also talks about a lot of nonsense useless hate speech against the President and the Democrats.

Alan Grayson defends Nancy Pelosi's idea of being cautious and prudent in Afghanistan and not increase troops rashly, without thinking and anlyzing first. Sending more troops could be ill-considered haste.

October 8, 2009

Alan Grayson on war profiteers, Afghanistan: "McChrystal was way out of line"

Vicente Duque

Laura said...

I have to agree with ultima. Obama has not done anything to warrant a Nobel award.

Dee said...

President Obama's most significant accomplishment so far is his changing America from the most hated in the world to the most admired in the world. Like a new ship's captain, he has changed our course. We are no longer the hated dictator, pillaging the world, threatening with terror and destruction. Instead, we are diplomacy leaders, thinking, moving forward, engaging other countries, gaining support from an improved union of nations. President Obama is, in fact, bringing a new world climate in international politics, one that would have never, ever been realized under Bush/Cheney. The world knows this and is honoring him for it with this award.

ultima said...

Effective leaders have never engaged in popularity contests. Do we need the approval of other nations if we believe we are doing the right thing? No? Leadership is not a popularity contest.

Okay, so Obama has made a splash and the Europeans like what they have seen. Where are the real results? Popularity is the stock in trade of politicians. That's how they get elected and re-elected -- by offering more public largesse without a thought of how to pay for it or its long term consequences to the economy or other national interests.

Few people believe Obama should have been given the prize -- in their minds they see him bowing to the despotic Saudi ruler, giving Islam the same status as less terrorist religions, etc.

The Peace Prize has become the Political Prize.

Some want all wars ended so we can live in a peaceful world. The question is does a cut and run approach promote peace or more terrorism? Does it promote human rights or does it enslave forever all the women in Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc.? How many American women would like to live under the Taliban? Who should they throw their support to? Should we indulge in unilateral disarmament so we have no temptation to go to war when our vital interests are threatened?

Our prsident and our country is not honored by the stained award of the Nobel Prize for Politica.

Dee said...

The better response would be,

I believe Diplomacy, Honor and the pursuit of Freedom for all and Peace in our world are the pursuits of good Leaders and policies our forefathers believed in! That is what the Nobel committee recognized -- our change in leadership and our change in direction. The people of America voted for this change and that is why WE voted for our President Barack Obama.

Those treasonous blowhards who advocate the FAILure of our President and our Country purely for an increase in their ratings should be ashamed of themselves!

ultima said...

Obama was nominated about 12 days into his presidency. That says it all! Don't you agree? Who else has received such special treatment at the hands of the disconnected, discredited, and disgraced Nobel Committee.

ultima said...

The 12 day nomination is clear evidence that the prize needs to be changed to the Prize for Politics which would be more cnosistent with the actions of the Committee.

ultima said...

"According to Alfred Nobel's will, the Nobel prizes were to be awarded to "those who, during the preceding year, shall have conferred the greatest benefit on mankind." The Peace Prize specifically was to be awarded to persons who had been working for "fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses." Nobel neither included nor excluded statesmen

ultima said...

Giving President Obama the Nobel Peace Prize is a "premature canonization" and an "embarrassment" to the process of designating a laureate, a presidential historian says.

"The jury is still out as to what his presidency is going to add up to," according to Fred Greenstein, author and professor of politics emeritus at Princeton University.

"It's more of an embarrassment to the Nobel process."

President Obama said Friday he was "most surprised and deeply humbled" to win the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize, adding that he accepts the honor as "a call to action to confront the common challenges of the 21st century."

In a brief statement in the White House Rose Garden on Friday, the president said he does not "view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments," but rather as a recognition of goals he has set for the United States and the world.

"I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many transformative figures that have been honored by this prize," he said.

Obama will go to Oslo in December to accept the honor, which includes a $1.4 million award, Norway's prime minister said.

Greenstein said Obama is unlikely to gain any political advantage from the award, and it is unlikely to lead to any major policy changes.

Only two other sitting presidents, Theodore Roosevelt in 1906 and Woodrow Wilson in 1919, have been awarded the prestigious Peace Prize. Roosevelt was honored largely for brokering an agreement between Russia and Japan, and Wilson took the award for his role in ending World War I and creating the League of Nations.

It's far too early to compare Obama to either of his predecessors, said Allan Lichtman, professor of history at American University.

"They're not comparable," Lichtman said. "[Roosevelt and Wilson] were six or seven years into two-term presidencies, and Obama has not completed a single year of his presidency, so it makes very little sense."

Obama possesses a great deal of "promise," but the jury is still out, Lichtman said.

"It remains to be seen what his foreign policy legacy will be," he said. "It is premature. This was to encourage rather than to recognize an accomplished fact."

The award might even become a "political headache" for Obama, Lichtman said.

"On the one hand, his liberal base will be pushing him to live up to this," he said. "And his Republican critics will say a bunch of Scandinavians socialists have given this award to another socialist. You'll hear quite a bit of criticism from the right."

Stephen Wayne, professor of American government at Georgetown University, praised Obama's "good instincts" and strong belief in diplomacy, but said he failed to see accomplishments that merited the prize.

"It does seem to me, at this point, that's its premature," Wayne said. "When I first saw it, I thought it was a joke. Obama may have been the first to get it for his rhetoric and his orientation."

Wayne said he was "startled" to learn Obama had been nominated for the award less than two weeks into his presidency.

"What had he done by February? He had been the first African-American elected president and provided sawing rhetoric," Wayne said. "In one sense, Obama has always been more popular in Europe than in the United States. That popularity is based in part on the contrast he provides to former President George W. Bush, who was not popular in Europe. I am very favorable toward President Obama, but this prize is a surprise to me."

Dee said...

My, my. This one has touched a nerve for you.. 4 comments in a row. You and the FAIL Republicans have a few more weeks to wail and blubber about this, all to no avail.

In the end, the President will pick up his award, repeat what he said, and continue on his road to bringing a new world climate in international politics, one that would have never, ever been realized under Bush/Cheney.

Freedom and Peace in the USA and the World through diplomacy, respect and honor.
The world knows this and is honoring him for it with this award.

ultima said...

I am not wailing or blubbering. That is all in your mind. Did you forget your haldone?

In the end, the award is meaningless and no one here will be swayed one way or another by this embarassment to the Nobel Committee. My cousin in Denmark agrees the award was as a minimum premature. It is based on wishful thinking on the part of the Norwegians who originally began awarding this prize to an American Prsident because they wanted a strong friend. I guess no one told them "you can't buy friends."

This is just another tempest in a teapot but the discussion on both sides of the issue needed to be heard instead of just mindless adulation and praise for an empty gesture by the misguided Norse.

ultima said...

Surprise! Surprise! Obama fails to win the Nobel Economics Prize

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