Sunday, August 17, 2008

As our President chastises China for their Human Rights Abuses,Americans familiar with Migrant Detention Centers are asking "What has America become?"

As all of America learns more and more about Crony owned Detention Centers, they are appalled and outraged, asking themselves "How can this be happening in America?"
What Have We Become?
Medical Neglect in Immigrant Prisons Reveals America at Its Worst
New America Media, Posted: Aug 17, 2008

BOSTON -- On the eve of the Beijing Olympics, while Bush was preparing to express his "deep concerns" over China's human rights record, Chinese immigrant
Hiu Lui Ng was dying in the custody of our great nation's own U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency. For months 33-year-old Mr. Ng had complained of excruciating back pain. Officials accused him of faking it. When a judge finally ordered that Mr. Ng be brought to a hospital, it was discovered that he had a fractured spine, cancer all over his body, and very little time to live. He died five days later, leaving behind a wife and two young sons. Even as President Bush scolds the Chinese government for its human rights abuses, he is presiding over a humanitarian disaster in his own country. Millions of migrants, authorized and unauthorized, have come to the U.S. in recent years to exercise their unalienable rights to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." What many of those migrants have encountered is a society that is unrecognizable from its founding ideals.If a U.S. citizen were to die of medical neglect in a Chinese prison it would be an international incident. The death of Mr. Ng is just business as usual for the Bush administration. Mr. Ng is just one of dozens of migrants in the past few years who have died from apparent medical neglect in ICE's sprawling detention system. In a case very similar to Mr. Ng's, Salvadoran migrant Francisco Castaneda went for almost a year in detention without treatment for a very painful penile lesion. When finally allowed to go to a hospital, Castaneda had to have his penis amputated, and he eventually died from cancer that had spread all over his body. A federal judge described the treatment of Castaneda as "beyond cruel and unusual".While Bush was expressing his "firm opposition" the detention of dissidents in China, his administration was imprisoning migrant children in family detention centers like the Don Hutto Residential Facility. In 2007, then Kevin Yourdkhani, wrote this in crayon from Don Hutto: "I don't like to stay in this jail. I'm only nine years old. I want to go to my school in Canada. I'm sleeping beside the wall...his place is not good for me. I want to get out of the cell. Just pleace give visa for my family."It's cases like these that have led many U.S. citizens like myself to ask, "What have we become?".

13 comments:

patriot said...

If he had cancer all over his body, there would have been nothing they could have done for him anyway. I don't know of anyone who has survived that not even with treatment. He didn't die from medical neglect, he died from the cancer throughout his body! Where is the proof that any detainees have died from medical neglect???????????

Those who come here illegally do not have any "unalienable rights" to pursue anything!

What a crock of crap to state that these "immigrants" have encountered a society that is unrecognizable from its founding ideals. Any America loving citizen should be outraged at such as statement when we take in a million legal immigrants a year. Why aren't you outraged dee to hear such a statement made about your beloved country?

Hutto has made many improvements to its center. I have already told you that. I have also asked if you think it better for these children to be seperated from their parents rather than detained with them. You keep bringing up the same BS and you never answer that pertinent question.

dianne said...

This is an unfortunate case. However, it is not unlike the thousands of citizen inmates who claim poor medical treatment or who die in prisons in this country.

I would have to ask where was the foreign consulate while all this was going on?

Also, I personally know a US citizen who did not have insurance who was turned away from chemotherapy right here across the street from me. He had committed no crime except for not having insurance. After a year, and after he gave up his small business and everything he had, he qualified for state care and chemotherapy.

dianne said...

To clarify, the guy I referred to lives across the street from me. I know him well so this isn't some anecdotal story. He was the youngest person in the United States diagnosed with this specific type of leukemia. He almost died before getting treatment. He was an adult but before the state started providing insurane, his parents paid for his treatment with all that they had saved plus used their credit cards to the max. At the low point in this horror story, he was sitting in a chair getting chemotherapy when a nurse walked in and literally removed the chemotherapy drip from his arm, telling the family that they had exceeded their credit card limit. True story.

Dee said...

Sad Story Dianne, but at least he did eventually get treatment.

The Detention Centers are terrible places. They should not be incarcerating children and families. We need comprehensive immigration reform.

As are Arpaios prisons, for anyone he arrests, citizens or not. They are vermin and disease infested. He has lost countless lawsuits and multi millions of dollars for the deaths and abuses in his prison realms.

patriot said...

So you just choose to ignore the facts that I provided you on the improvements at Hutto, dee, and still call them "terrible"? It isn't any fun for anyone to be locked up but if you can't do the time then don't do the crime.

CIR won't change the continued need for detention centers as there still will always be immigration violators. Yes, they should be incarserating fathers and mothers, just like they do in American prisons. As I have asked you numerous time but you keep dodging the question, "isn't it better to keep the families together and not seperate the children from their parents"?

Do you have an url for all these lawsuits that Sheriff Joe has lost and all the deaths he supposedly caused?

Dee said...

Yes I do have a url for Joes law suits. I think it is upwards of $40M he has lost Maricopa County taxpayers.

Google this and a ton of websites with lawsuit info will come up:
arpaio lost lawsuits million

Dee said...

You Pat, tend to believe the PR announcements by the Detention Centers. I know people who work in the system and many, many websites detail the abuses.

Dee said...

Remember, they are privately owned (by GOP Cronies) prisons!

patriot said...

Sorry, but I wouldn't believe what any Hispanic would say about the detention centers even if they did work there. They would be biased.

How do I know that your websites aren't also PR crap for the other side?

So what if they are privately owned? What has that to do with anything?

Dee said...

Pat,
Your statement is very racially biased against ALL HISPANICS. SHAME ON YOU!!

patriot said...
Sorry, but I wouldn't believe what any Hispanic would say about the detention centers even if they did work there. They would be biased.

patriot said...

No, I am not, dee! I am biased against the lying, illegal and ethnocentric kind. I have no problem with the ones who are honest and put our country above illegal foreingers.

Shame on you for making false accusations of me.

Dee said...

Go back and read what you said Pat. YOU said ANY!!

patriot said...
Sorry, but I wouldn't believe what any Hispanic would say about the detention centers even if they did work there. They would be biased.

patriot said...

Yes, I did say that. Any Hispanic who works there would be biased.

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