Bravo Ruben Navarette! The Minutemen ARE responsible. As you said, "Forde and Bush were marinated in the vile and racist juices of an anti-illegal immigration movement that often seeks to dehumanize people it considers "illegal alien invaders."
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Navarrette: No laughing matter
I can usually count on amusement from a band of border vigilantes and their Minuteman-tics. In April 2006, when Sen. John McCain dared unemployed union members to pick lettuce to disprove his contention that Americans won't do the jobs that immigrants do, an outraged group of Minutemen demonstrated outside McCain's office in Phoenix holding heads of lettuce — to show that they could pick lettuce if they had to. The produce was wrapped in cellophane and stamped with a bar code. The protesters picked lettuce all right — in a supermarket.
In October 2006, I wrote a commentary in which I lampooned the Minutemen for prowling "the U.S.-Mexico border chasing Mexicans — admittedly, not an easy thing to do when you're carrying a lawn chair and a cooler of beer." In response, Jim Gilchrist, co-founder of the Minuteman Project, wrote a rebuttal insisting that his volunteers "do not drink on duty." When I tell that story to cops, they usually chuckle at the phrase "on duty."
In February 2007, Gilchrist found himself in what turned into a long and bitter feud with directors of his own organization after they fired him over allegations of fraud, failure to secure nonprofit status, mismanagement and falsifying documents. Gilchrist sued the board, which retained control of the Minuteman name, and the board countersued. Gilchrist later launched a new group, Jim Gilchrist's Minuteman Project.
But there's nothing amusing about what occurred May 30 in the border town of Arivaca, Ariz., about 50 miles south of Tucson. Nine-year-old Brisenia Flores and her father, Raul, were shot and killed by intruders dressed in camouflage and impersonating law enforcement officers. Brisenia's mother, Gina, was also shot but survived.
Officials have charged Shawna Forde, Jason Bush and Albert Gaxiola in the shootings. Forde, a native of Everett, Wash., is the founder of a border-watch group called Minutemen American Defense. Bush is also a member of the group. The Arizona Daily Star, citing a Pima County investigator and court filings, reported last week that Bush had made a "full confession" to the killings and named Forde, Gaxiola and other individuals — still being investigated — as involved in the attack.
While the murders were certainly hateful acts — the girl was reportedly killed to eliminate witnesses — this isn't just a random hate crime. Authorities say it was part of a plot hatched by Forde and the others to rob suspected drug dealers and use the proceeds to fund Minutemen-style activities. The assailants purportedly believed that Raul Flores had a stash of drugs and money in the house, but authorities found no evidence of drug trafficking.
Since the killings, factions of the Minutemen organization have been desperately trying to dissociate themselves from Forde and Bush, attempting to portray them as rogue members who went off the deep end.
Not so fast. The Minutemen shouldn't be allowed to disown Forde, Bush and any other border vigilantes incriminated in the investigation. Far from being outlanders, Forde and Bush were marinated in the vile and racist juices of an anti-illegal immigration movement that often seeks to dehumanize people it considers "illegal alien invaders." (I have been saying the same thing!) And, from media reports, it seems that various factions of the organization welcomed Forde into their ranks over the years.
In fact, according to an alternative newspaper in Everett, a couple of years ago, Forde ran for the city council there unsuccessfully on an anti-illegal immigration platform. In June 2007, Forde co-sponsored an event dubbed the Illegal Immigration Summit where, according to the newspaper, she warned the audience that illegal immigrants would soon "outnumber real Americans" and that one would have to speak Spanish to get a job. The keynote speaker chimed in, warning that a "tsunami" of Mexican immigrants threatened the national identity, that "soft immigration laws" were destroying the country, and that Spanish would be the national language of the United States by 2030.
The speaker at Forde's event? Jim Gilchrist.
MercuryNews.com
Navarrette: No laughing matter
I can usually count on amusement from a band of border vigilantes and their Minuteman-tics. In April 2006, when Sen. John McCain dared unemployed union members to pick lettuce to disprove his contention that Americans won't do the jobs that immigrants do, an outraged group of Minutemen demonstrated outside McCain's office in Phoenix holding heads of lettuce — to show that they could pick lettuce if they had to. The produce was wrapped in cellophane and stamped with a bar code. The protesters picked lettuce all right — in a supermarket.
In October 2006, I wrote a commentary in which I lampooned the Minutemen for prowling "the U.S.-Mexico border chasing Mexicans — admittedly, not an easy thing to do when you're carrying a lawn chair and a cooler of beer." In response, Jim Gilchrist, co-founder of the Minuteman Project, wrote a rebuttal insisting that his volunteers "do not drink on duty." When I tell that story to cops, they usually chuckle at the phrase "on duty."
In February 2007, Gilchrist found himself in what turned into a long and bitter feud with directors of his own organization after they fired him over allegations of fraud, failure to secure nonprofit status, mismanagement and falsifying documents. Gilchrist sued the board, which retained control of the Minuteman name, and the board countersued. Gilchrist later launched a new group, Jim Gilchrist's Minuteman Project.
But there's nothing amusing about what occurred May 30 in the border town of Arivaca, Ariz., about 50 miles south of Tucson. Nine-year-old Brisenia Flores and her father, Raul, were shot and killed by intruders dressed in camouflage and impersonating law enforcement officers. Brisenia's mother, Gina, was also shot but survived.
Officials have charged Shawna Forde, Jason Bush and Albert Gaxiola in the shootings. Forde, a native of Everett, Wash., is the founder of a border-watch group called Minutemen American Defense. Bush is also a member of the group. The Arizona Daily Star, citing a Pima County investigator and court filings, reported last week that Bush had made a "full confession" to the killings and named Forde, Gaxiola and other individuals — still being investigated — as involved in the attack.
While the murders were certainly hateful acts — the girl was reportedly killed to eliminate witnesses — this isn't just a random hate crime. Authorities say it was part of a plot hatched by Forde and the others to rob suspected drug dealers and use the proceeds to fund Minutemen-style activities. The assailants purportedly believed that Raul Flores had a stash of drugs and money in the house, but authorities found no evidence of drug trafficking.
Since the killings, factions of the Minutemen organization have been desperately trying to dissociate themselves from Forde and Bush, attempting to portray them as rogue members who went off the deep end.
Not so fast. The Minutemen shouldn't be allowed to disown Forde, Bush and any other border vigilantes incriminated in the investigation. Far from being outlanders, Forde and Bush were marinated in the vile and racist juices of an anti-illegal immigration movement that often seeks to dehumanize people it considers "illegal alien invaders." (I have been saying the same thing!) And, from media reports, it seems that various factions of the organization welcomed Forde into their ranks over the years.
In fact, according to an alternative newspaper in Everett, a couple of years ago, Forde ran for the city council there unsuccessfully on an anti-illegal immigration platform. In June 2007, Forde co-sponsored an event dubbed the Illegal Immigration Summit where, according to the newspaper, she warned the audience that illegal immigrants would soon "outnumber real Americans" and that one would have to speak Spanish to get a job. The keynote speaker chimed in, warning that a "tsunami" of Mexican immigrants threatened the national identity, that "soft immigration laws" were destroying the country, and that Spanish would be the national language of the United States by 2030.
The speaker at Forde's event? Jim Gilchrist.
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Bravo for Dee that blogs relentlessly against these Paramilitary Racists.
Bravo for Ruben Navarette, that is also courageous and fearless against these coward scoundrels, that kill children and constantly threaten kindergardens and elementary schoolchildren and demonstrate against them fully armed. Bastards !!
Bravo for Henry Cisneros, Gregory Rodriguez, Janet Murgia, that publish books filled with Powerful Economic Reasons and Learned Assesments. Bravo for Simon Rosember that gathers the Best Political Analysts in NDN organization.
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"After three days of Continuous Racist Hate on Radio by Racist Hater Doug McIntyre's, and after many stupid lies of this guy, this Elementary School received many threats from these type of racist losers and failed in life guys ( probably drunken or drugged racists ).
The teachers say that all accusations are false and I believe. The elementary school with many little children worked peacefully during four years until this coward Idiot began an attack of three continuous days. He accused them of being Communists, Racists, Madrasa ( a Muslim School ). This idiot spoke of "Human Sacrifice" of the Aztecs and that they would probably teach how to commit "Human Sacrifice".
This idiot accused this School of Little Children of being a Terrorist Madrasa. He is the coward terrorist."
This Red Neck Coward Bastard Doug McIntyre and all of them should be denounced and combated.
"Patriotism is the Last Refuge of the Scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
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Vicente Duque
Navarette wrote, "...the vile and racist juices of an anti-illegal immigration movement that often seeks to dehumanize people it considers "illegal alien invaders."
Well, I guess we know where he stands on border security and the rule of law. It is impossible to dehumanize people. They are human by definition. If they are punished for breaking the law, that is hardly dehumanizing. The term "illegal alien invaders" is entirely descriptive and appropriate. Presidents of the U.S. have used the term "illegal aliens" many times and the invasion is a fact or did those 12 million illegals materialize out of thin air.
There is some truth in the Navarette article but he oversteps when he demeans the legitimate concerns about immigrations unarmed invasion and its deadly consequences.
"Patriotism is the Last Refuge of the Scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
Invective and name calling is the Last Resort of those who have no substantive arguments.
Charges of racism are the first recourse of those who have something to gain from open borders.
Charges of racism are the first recourse of all those who have something to gain by open borders.
"Since the killings, factions of the Minutemen organization have been desperately trying to dissociate themselves from Forde and Bush, attempting to portray them as rogue members who went off the deep end."
In much the same manner as Latino American community and the anti-America movement try to dissociate themselves from crimes committed by their brethren among the illegal aliens.
I am waiting for El Duque to publish something about the recent attacks by Belfast youths on Eastern European immigrants in Ireland. My gosh -- this must be racism at its worst -- white against white. Reminds one of some of the incidents involving attacks on immigrants and illegals here in the U.S., doesn't it? What does that tell us. Could it be that these attack relate more to the fact that immigrants are perceived to be taking and holding American jobs when 14 million citizens are unemployed?
Duque, Navarette, et al paint with too broad a brush just as others have painted with the same brush when talking about crimes committed by illegals.
El Duque et al are noticeably silent when it comes to the substantive arguments against excessive legal immigration and illegal aliens wherever they come from. Why is that? Surely it must be seen as a sign of weakness in their arguments.
"...illegal immigrants would soon "outnumber real Americans" and that one would have to speak Spanish to get a job. The keynote speaker chimed in, warning that a "tsunami" of Mexican immigrants threatened the national identity, that "soft immigration laws" were destroying the country, and that Spanish would be the national language of the United States by 2030."
I hate to be put in a position of having to defend the works of a killer but anyone possessing even the smallest degree of objectivity would be able to see some element of truth in the above quote. For example, since 1986 the number of illegal aliens in the U.S. has increased at a compound rate of more than 8% per year. Has anyone asked a few simple questions: (1) If this continues, where will it lead? (2) Will America become more and more like the donor countries in terms of poverty, misery, disease, crime, and corruption? (3) If so, what will that suggest about all those who now seek open borders, amnesty, and a continuation of birthright citizenship? (4) Won't the phrase, "The more there are of us, the less there will be for each of us" be a apt descriptor of that? (5) Some in La Raza and elsewhere are already pushing for Spanish as one of two national languages. What is the logical extrapolation of that in terms of the linguistic future of the U.S. and the ability of monolinguistic English speakers to get a job when so many will speak only Spanish?
It appears to me that no one has dealt with the substantive issues in the quote above. What are your predictions for America's future given the current trends and rate of illegal invasion? At 8% per year compounded 12 million illegals will increase to 562 million in just 50 years. Now I don't really expect that kind of an increase in illegals but when you add to them legal immigrants, their progeny, and their higher fertility rates, the future becomes easily discernable and its not too different from that described in the quote. So whateve you may think of the MM Forde et al, the facts remain and explain to some extent their irrational behavior. I would welcome some substantive discussion of these issues.
If schools are charter schools under the control of La Raza, the Madrasa label might not be too far off the mark. Who knows what reconquista indoctrination goes on there. Some? None? Alot? Madrasas teach more than terrorism -- they teach racism, religious doctrine, etc.
I believe I posted something about Muslim teachings and role playing in in American schools. Be careful what you wish for.
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