Wednesday, July 8, 2009

Jim Gilchrist Posts Messages from Shawna Forde About the Murders on his Minuteman Website Just Hours After their Arrests! (Screenshots)

Jim Gilchrist and other National Minuteman Leaders continue to disavow and attempt to distance themselves from Shawna Forde and Gunny Bush, the murderers of 9 year old Brisenia Flores and her father. However they cannot eliminate the traces of their support for Forde and Bush which they posted proudly on their websites. In my research, I came across these screenshots of Jim Gilchrist's minuteman site in which he proudly supports Shawna Forde and Gunny Bush. Gilchrist has since removed them from his website.
Screenshot 1: Jim Gilchrist and the National Minuteman website supports Minuteman Director Gunny Bush:
Screenshot 2: Jim Gilchrist posts on the MM website Forde's "Full Operations on the Border" SOP: Screenshot 3: A day and a half after Forde's arrest, Jim Gilchrist posts the following from Forde / MAD disavowing responsibility for Brisenia's murder. This was his FATHER's DAY message! Shameful!!
And the Minutemen say they are NOT linked to Shawna Forde. What can they say now! They have been caught in their own web of Lies!


Anonymous said...

Lets be real clear her, lumping all "Minutemen" into one group is like saying all Police are bad! Mr. Gilchrists group as you have shown very clear here is the group most responsible for her support.

Mr. Gilchrist kept her on while all the other groups shuned her and her ways.

Dee said...

Gilchrist's group is National and Gilchrist is your most nationally known minuteman in America, as is his group. Now that you acknowledge Gilchrist's involvement, you should also recognize that Glenn Spencer of the Am Border Patrol group also supported her. She was at his compound the day she was arrested. She used his PC.

Shawna was trained at Chris Simcox MCDC camp. Shawna spoke on televised events representing FAIR. She was reported by several Arizona newspapers at the April 15 Tea Party event as a National representative for the Minutemen.

Acknowledge all of the above, then admit you do have wackos like Forde and Bush and others within your ranks.

Do you really think that the antics of Schwilk and the SDMMs have not been recorded for posterity on the internet and on youtube? Or the antics of Robert Crooks from the Mountain Minutemen and his infamous youtube of "Shooting Mexicans?"

You have to admit the Minutemen groups draw many extremist restrictionists. They do not do your side any service. Some within your own groups are calling for an end to the minutemen and their border patrol activities because of the harm they do to your overall cause. By keeping them in your ranks and covering for them you are tearing your reputations apart. The media is already distancing themselves from your side. Fox News has reported NOTHING positive about the minutemen in weeks, since these murders.

Perhaps now is the time to stop minuteman border watches completely. That would be the logical solution for your side, at least until after the trial.

Ruben said...

Endorse the Petition for Congress to investigate the Minutemen et al at

Vicente Duque said...

Supreme Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg supports Sonia Sotomayor and is enthusiastic about her : The New York Times

The Place of Women on the Court
Published: July 7, 2009

Some excerpts :

Q: Did you think that all the attention to the criticism of Sotomayor as being “bullying” or not as smart is sex-inflected? Does that have to do with the rarity of a woman in her position, and the particular challenges?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: I can’t say that it was just that she was a woman. There are some people in Congress who would criticize severely anyone President Obama nominated. They’ll seize on any handle. One is that she’s a woman, another is that she made the remark about Latina women. [In 2001 Sotomayor said: “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”] And I thought it was ridiculous for them to make a big deal out of that. Think of how many times you’ve said something that you didn’t get out quite right, and you would edit your statement if you could. I’m sure she meant no more than what I mean when I say: Yes, women bring a different life experience to the table. All of our differences make the conference better. That I’m a woman, that’s part of it, that I’m Jewish, that’s part of it, that I grew up in Brooklyn, N.Y., and I went to summer camp in the Adirondacks, all these things are part of me.

Once Justice O’Connor was questioning counsel at oral argument. I thought she was done, so I asked a question, and Sandra said: Just a minute, I’m not finished. So I apologized to her and she said, It’s O.K., Ruth. The guys do it to each other all the time, they step on each other’s questions. And then there appeared an item in USA Today, and the headline was something like“Rude Ruth Interrupts Sandra.”

Q: It seemed to me that male judges do much more abrasive things all the time, and it goes unremarked.

JUSTICE GINSBURG: Yes, the notion that Sonia is an aggressive questioner — what else is new? Has anybody watched Scalia or Breyer up on the bench?

Q: She’ll fit right in?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: She’ll hold her own.

Vicente Duque

Laine Lawless said...

Dee, before you go around blaming all of us Nativists for what Shawna Forde allegedly did, please take a look at this: What was done is not the fault of the entire anti-illegal immigration movement. Most of us barely know each other, and I wouldn't be so quick to judge if I had not MET the people involved.

Laura said...

The Minutemen groups are a joke. They stood by Shawna until now.

Gustavo Arellano said...

You're missing the burrito for the beans in focusing on Gilchrist. The true evil person is Barbara Coe:

pcorn54 said...

The Mexican is right (Hey Mexican, where's my book you promised! jijiji)

Barbara Coe, Chelene Nightingale, Jeff Scwhilk, Gilchrist, Stomex,Gheen, they all share responsibility and are dangerous to a civilized society

Dee said...

Please read Ruben's latest column. I think he hits the nail on the head.

Dee said...

I am honored by your visit. Thank you for commenting.

I agree with you. Barbara Coe is very dangerous. I commented on your article earlier last week.

I also agree with PCorn. Coe, Chelene Nightingale, Jeff Scwhilk, Gilchrist, Stonex,Gheen, all share responsibility and are dangerous to our civilized society. They preach anger, violence, hate .. as Ruben said: "Forde and Bush were marinated in the vile and racist juices of an anti-illegal immigration movement that often seeks to dehumanize people it considers "illegal alien invaders."

Anonymous said...

Looks like conspiracy speaker c.n. had a baby in 2012. Funny she won't mention this on her angry Facebook page. A woman of 47 having a little baby is quite a feat, why does she not want her followers to know.

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